And I am trying to show them through my own Tiktok how to do it a little different. Nevertheless, this is neither here nor there regarding a round folks are arguing against simply because “good enough” should ever apply only to the M1.
I don’t argue against ERA being used on T72A at 9.3?
Because one is 9.3 and another is at 10.0 ?
This is War Thunder, not real life.
Shells are given/taken from vehicles in order to adjust their performance as Gaijin seems to be most optimal. Shell’s date of introduction don’t really matter.
I’d say that the m1 is actually meta defining at 10.7.
Speed, reload and trolly armour.
And a lot of people point out why that result in the bad balance we have now. I still remember when they refuse to lift up BR compression because muh “Queue time” should be fast. we people said that it worth to wait a few more minute just to get a good match up and have good experience in playing them , etc
But it is! If a vehicle is performing fine, when why does it need a buff?
Look at the ariete P, worst in every way then the abrams except for one thing only. Why is the M1 getting buffed before it?(which, ironically, it already did)
My play experience has never seen an M1 with trolly armor.
And M833 won’t change that. Infact it would help M1 Abrams maintain it fire power at the same level when M774 got fix. Why against it ?
If you bother to check ariete P has better pen with 120mm with DM33. That almost like M829 on M1A1. M833 won’t even match such level
As i said . M833 won’t making M1 Abrams exceed such capability that it has now.
Ok, so the Abrams being a higher BR than the 2AV should get M833.
That’s an excuse. The Rise P, TTS, M1 and IPM1 were added without M833 while German and Japanese tanks were added to the same BR range with their M833 equivalent rounds.
You could go around and around, why doesn’t 2k get a better round and is at 9.7 with no thermals?
Why does the onlyfant mk.2 get thermals, a good round and LRF at 9.3?
You guys are trying to make one of the most balanced areas(10.7) and make it unbalanced for…reasons? I guess?
We should have these conversations. Gaijin absolutely should be far more consistent with how it implements vehicles.
Yes, that is the one thing i am referring to when I said “it is worst in every way except one”
I’m still not getting the actual need. Nothing has changed between this month and last(when it apparently didn’t need it) except you can’t dunk on 9.3s anymore.
Except they don’t listen except to the loudest fan base(hence by the US top tier vehicles got buffs before the Arietes did)
Not every single vehicle is the same, some are just better than others. Im tired of pretending that the M1s are some poor forgetting vehicle. They are fine, I dare say, good even.
You mean the turret ring bug we been waiting 4 years on and was acknowledged 10 months ago and no feedback?
The DU article because “USA adds only pork to their tanks, they can’t possibly improve armor or suspension”?
Not really, because ammo a vehicle can fire isn’t the sole factor in determining vehicle’s BR.
They don’t need to have equivalent rounds if they’re better in other metrics, which makes them balanced in the end.
If you start looking at tanks as packages as a whole, it might make things much easier to understand.
And that’s what I’m doing and you’re replying no.
A T72A gets ERA that can stop 774 at 9.3, and 3BM22 is able to pen an M1 Abrams reliably except from front.
T72s at 10.3, same deal, plus 3BM42.
Seems to me the US deck gets stacked .3 BR higher with options, slightly better situational reload, and then told to suck it up.
I would said that fire power was the one of the main advantage. with 6.0 sec reload with DM33 (120mm) at 10.7
while yes ariete P are worst than M1 Abrams but so does ariete P against Leopard 2A4. M833 won’t change this fact. or make Abrams surpass ariete P fire power
Again with M774 fix coming. M833 should get add to M1 Abrams
First of all, having 1.3 - 2.1s faster reload isn’t just “slightly better”.
Second of all, you still failed to see massive disadvantages T-72s have when compared to M1, i.e. you still haven’t looked at the whole package.
Yeah right, Gaijin gives you one of the best 10.7 MBTs and you have to suck it up, audacity on some people is crazy.
And that’s why I say you and the others like you saying as much is infuriating when you say, “You’re being absurd.”
Again, the round reload is situational so long as you don’t get hit. But everything about the units in question are designed to hurt the M1 to the point that it WON’T have a loader and that ultra-fast reload.
And let’s not get into the turret ring going down. The only advantage the M1 has is that its turret ring is modeled appropriately to resist MOST APCs and IFVs with rapid firing autocannons.
So I would argue that yours is the one holding the audacity - and the gall - to declare that M883 is so imbalancing to your gameplay.
Ah, I missed that context.
Yeah, from what I gather M774 is overperforming by around 22mm, in that case adding M833 would make more sense.
But if M774 is never changed, I don’t see any real need for M833 currently.
Welp it only a matter of time.
You see i’m all for correcting shell performance. But seeing as how Gaijin done things. I’d imagine they’ll fix M774 and left M833 out. hope i’m wrong on that tho.