Nope. I mean 8.7. And with them moving the goal posts I won’t play that stupid game. Meanwhile the S-104 gets stuck with 230mm pen broken apds until T4, while the russian vehicles get darts at T2 mods.
Nothing in the Russian TT at 9.3 has a kinetic round with 440mm penetration, fyi.
Quote me, where did I say specifically it did. Go ahead, I will wait.
Here ya go.
This is what you said.
This is what I said…
Are you able to spot the difference? Likely not but anyways to make it even more fun. That round with 440mm of pen. Comes on a tank that at 8.7 gets Kinetic rounds stock right out the gate. Meanwhile other vehicles get to grind for them until they can hit T4 mods.
My bad. We were talking about Kinetic rounds, didn’t think you’d “shift the goalposts” and discuss a Rank 4 HEAT-FS round, after arguing why you should get a 535mm+ pen kinetic round on an 8.7 vehicle. Lol.
Man stock DM-12 at 8.0 would been nice lmao. But okay. You got us. Early Russian dart with crap angles on literally 2 tanks is so unfair. Russian bias confirmed.
Because the tank actually used a 535mm kinetic round… in the same time frame… in the same BR… but I guess only russia gets to have high pen rounds. I will just continue to use my 240mm pen round at 8.7 for now and enjoy not being able to pen IS-6, IS-7, o279… Yay fun…
And it performs better than its stat card, but no need to once again go over the datamine information that shows this.
Tested it, not fielded. You aren’t rocking an L30. And in the same BR? Unparalleled. You’re asking for too much. 535 kinetic is 10.7/11.0. If you want to take a Mk3/5 into that BR, be my guest, LOL.
Unironically, and respectfully, a skill issue. Flank around, that’s what everyone does stock anyways.
Never seen it, and I’ll agree with you anyways. It would be fine even if they “corrected” whatever is “wrong” with it.
Oh good, that is the benchmark? Welp, say goodbye to a massive amount of the russian TT if that is the case… You can’t have your cake and eat it to. If its good enough for russia, then hold the standard across the board.
Oh yeah, I will get right on that while I drive around at 15mph vs the BMP-2, and T55 which double or triple my speed. Sure I will just out flank them. Right on it.
The benchmark is balanced gameplay. A Rank VII round, who’s closest analogues are found at 10.7-11.3 depending on the nation and tank, is not balanced gameplay. You could argue for L23A1, and that might be more reasonable, but L28, not even L27 or L27A1 is way too far dude. If everything went in that was theoretically possible, 3BM42 would go even further down, as would many other NATO rounds for other tanks. The majority of the Russian TT is production vehicles btw, so slow your roll there cowboy.
Thats just how UK vehicles play. I don’t get to use even half of the popular spots in most maps because I don’t have the depression. Now that I’m fully into the T-72’s and T-80’s, I literally don’t have a reverse gear worth a damn. I didn’t quit, I didn’t demand BR breaking features, I just learned how to cautiously play and (usually) win the game.
Not sure what to tell you man, you are getting the best and worst that England has to offer. Warts and all. If you don’t like the gameplay style, you might want to consider other nations.
They are not production. Actually, I think russia is the only nation in the game that doesn’t have “early” or pre-production models. Which aircraft (seeing as they have more than any other nation) is the “early” variant? Which tank? None of them… they are all late model upgrades.
That is because you don’t need reverse when you have magical armor that EVERYONE knows and has pointed out for years is broken and they refuse to fix it. That is also because the russian grind is soooo much easier. You get darts at T1 or T2. You get a lrf at T2… While other nations get to grind to T4 before they see them. Hell some russian tanks start with darts. Must be just so hard to grind with the best rounds first.
I actually play other nations and its similar. russian vehicles are balanced so they never have negative win rates… And that shows the bias and gross disrespect of the devs. They don’t balance for game balance. They balance for russia to be on top. Which they have been for 3 years now.
I’m not even going to bother, you look up the tree. I’ll just give you a snippet from the BR range you want your 535pen mega-God round for. T-54: 1947, 1949, 1951, T-55A, T-62, T-72A (UFP is a MOD, not part of the stock model), T-64A (1971), Everyone of those is a production tank and is the base version as it was produced. This is most apparent in the fact that you have to grind out the UFP mod and LRF that was added on as part of T-72A program in real life. Until then, it’s a T-72 Ural. T-64 (1971) is the base model produced in 1971, it’s first major upgrade was the addition of the 12.7mm MG, and illumination for the sights/NVG capability. We don’t get the MG, and everyone knows NVG makes zero difference.
Also, LaGG-3(e) vs LaGG-3(l), MiG-9(e) vs MiG-9(l), MiG-15 vs MiG-15bis, MiG-21 vs MiG-21bis. If you use your brain I’m sure you’ll understand that’s Early/Late.
I wish.
Mk3/5 sounds painful, every nation including Russia has it’s areas where it’s not too fun. 5.3 wasn’t that great, 8.0-9.0 is tough too, when everyone else starts getting LRF and HEAT-FS stock, and even pre-BR change, some Thermals…
Two tanks, and the darts are average at best. Again. We don’t see a single MBT with Thermals until 10.3 in the TT, we all have our advantages and disadvantages.
That’s how you feel.
Even if he does T64A has 425 mm pen with 193 angled pen which is on same level as 9.0s (saying that because its angled pen that is gonns matter)
nah i see f22 coming way before f35 block 4, agility is nothing compared to potentially unlimited awareness and a barrage of missiles. anyway wanting the f22 because of a modernized su25 is like wanting abramsx because the russians in 2023 refurbished a t34 for a parade