Now that the Update dropped lets talk about the Harriers unfair disadvantage and why it has suffered worse than any other nations jets

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I dont see the word impossible anywhere except coming from you. also that’s not how irccm works

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“you can throw every flare and turn as hard 90 as possible and it will still track regardless” aka impossible

in nutshell it is, you defeat irccm missiles by aiming your flares
if you think im wrong then watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4PMaFA9Obs

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I don’t even get what you are arguing about.

So I will ask you 1 question.

Is it significantly harder to fool IR missiles in a Harrier when compared with other jets.
Yes or No.

Specifically non-IRCCM seen at 11.0 and lower.

97

so you are shoving words into someone’s mouth, cool you do you

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98

for me? no
for you? who knows. keep the skills in check

don’t claim that something is impossible to defeat if its defeatable by clicking the flare button a few times and turning. exaggerating is same as lying

if “you can throw every flare and turn as hard 90 as possible and it will still track regardless” doesn’t mean impossible to defeat feel free to tell me what it means

99

Show me your stat card and how much you’ve played in the Harriers.

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100

honestly not really but that’s cause my harrier is at 9.7 where missiles aren’t really that good yet and it gets 240 CM that I use on periodic, I know other harriers that are higher BR do have issues though

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i can go around and record videos of me defeating r60 if you want

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your answer: extremely difficult and a pain in the butt to do

103

So I get 60 at the most and they drop 2 at a time.

104

yeah im sure tapping the flare button few times and pressing S is extremely difficult and pain

105

So you have a whole 186 battles in it

106

Go ahead and do it with 2 flares or less like everyone else.

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yes, and i have no problem with r-60’s
got a problem with that?
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“go defeat r60 but be dumb and only drop 2 flares even though you could easily drop couple more”
lmao

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I just don’t have the same experience as what it shown in that footage.

I know that it’s heat sig is high, but having a hard time believing that it’s that high.

110

exactly, you get a low CM count compared to the AV-8A I can set my CM to 4 per release and I use it at low interval too

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Have you played them a lot post update?

112

Feels like this topic is burning even hotter than heat-sig of harrier in game.

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113

to beat 4 R-60 from say a MiG-21 its around 32 flares so for 1 dogfight that’s more than half of them gone.

At 11.0 I pack chaff too. so 20 chaff 40 flares, after 1 fight there are like 8 flares left.