+1 for the entire tree purely for the SS.11 Unimog.
Would love to see the SWE tree morph into a full Scandinavian TT.
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Update!
Changes made
I have removed several vehicles, changed br and placements in aditiion to having replaced some of them
total amount is gone from 63 to 60
amount of unique has gone from 42 to 48
picture resolution and quality has been improved
everything has been recounted
picture of the new layout
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Why do you have a BMP with an autocannon + ATGM not in the 4th branch. It’s strange that you didn’t do this from the very beginning, when you made the table. In the first branch, there will be only IFVs with an autocannon. 30,35,40mm
I have copied the layout of the swedish tree as it is, and then added the Norwegian vehicles
so the bmp is placed there in game
Sweden should not have Norway. After all, this will simply devalue Germany and they will simply not donate to it. Now they are losing to Sweden in everything. Even in their own Leo 2 with extra armor and the worst German CAS tornado ASSTA 1. The SAM is better for the Swedes. Apache is much better than UHT. UHT cannot be applied in 80% of cases and maps. That’s why I didn’t mention the damage. Germany simply will not have the opportunity to compete not with Sweden alone, but with the whole of Scandinavia. It’s just that if the Swedes and Italians (Hungarians) played in the same team with Germany, then everyone would have 80% fewer questions. It’s just that no one understands why they have to fight against their de Leo 2, but in comparison, their one 2A7V with additional armor is not equal to 3 spawns of armored Strv 122, each of which is more armored than 2A7V. At the same time, Germany has 3, but paper tanks 2a5, a6 (which Fins also have), PSO and they are not comparable to Strv 122, it is easy to penetrate into the hull.
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I noticed you have a 9035n with Spike Dutch. But why do you think the Swedes will have the Netherlands? It’s just that only the Netherlands has had 9035 of them modernized.
There are no CV9035N in this tree
If what you’re suggesting is simply categorizing vehicles by their producer, I think your goal is a bit too ambitious. Currently we don’t even have more than three gamemodes, and you hope for a complete do-over of the vehicle organization of the game?
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Bro all I’m saying is the fact u wanna add a completely copy-paste tree to Sweden is the background mentality that made everyone pissed off at Gaijn. The Strv 122 is barley domestic and you wanna keep spamming bought tanks to ruin the game.
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I will point out that there is enough here to do a reasonable sub-tree without much copy-paste. Is there a lot of copy-paste in the suggestion to pad out possibilities? Sure, but thats also how basically every tree is these days
Also i just want 3 identical Leopard 2A4 in the Swedish tree for the malding it will start.
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The fact that the main reason you want even more German vehicles in your tech tree is because of the (rightful)seething it would cause, says more about how entitled the Swedish player base is than a thousand copy-paste gluttonous unrelated suggestions ever could.
(for example 2x K2, F-16, F-18, 2 or even more entire subtrees while other OLDER nations don’t even have 1(one))
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No its because of how funny it is.
Now this is wierd, because i distinctly remember the same sentiment when Italy was involved. Im just here because people get angry over the silliest of things.
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Italy’s fine to have the kf41 because Italy needs it. What matters is they don’t go too far in ruining the point of tech trees. They can still add it to Germany and the Puma is just a better ifv anyway.
I don’t see how a 3rd Leopard 2A4 which is identical to the other two ruins the tech tree any more than the second 2A4 did.
While offcourse laying the groundwork for “rightful seething”. People get way too upset at a tree suggestion that has all the possibilities put forward, just because it has vehicles present elsewhere in the game.
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The point you’re missing is the game is based on developmental nation tech tree. What does Norway do? What does Sweden have to do with Norway? Its illogical and its just favoritism for money.
It has interesting vehicles like the NM116, and offers flavor adding vehicles to the Swedish tree. Not to mention would offer Sweden with a legitimate top tier helicopter without resorting to dubiously grounded vehicles like they have up untill now.
Sweden and Norway share a very long border and have a very very long military history together. Both recently and in the past having current close cooperation and Norway being the subject of many many wars between Denmark and Sweden. A better question would be to ask what do they not have to do with eachother.
It is allready present in the Swedish tree with 2 Premium vehicles.
I dont understand what is illogical when its essentially the most obvious potential sub-tree that Sweden can get. The next option being Denmark.
Well, if that was the goal, just do the meme of making every Norwegian vehicle in the Swedish tree be a premium. Which would also be funny, so id be on board.
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“Germany” and “German” ironically fits where ‘Sweden’ and “Swedish” is in everything you just typed…
Edit: I’m not saying thats not a point; its just a generic point and it chronologically doesn’t fit with Sweden development. Norway bought all its upgrades and vehicles from foreign suppliers just like Denmark so they simply don’t have a chronological development that makes sense for a tech tree.
Germany and Norway share a very long boarder?
And has fought many times with Denmark over Norway?
Germany has dubiously added top tier helicopters? (Looks at in service Tiger UHT)
And last i checked military cooperation between Germany and Norway kinda extent to normal european NATO situation, and is otherwise fairly limited in the past outside of occupation during WW2 if you count that as cooperation.
I meannof you think the subtree fits better elsewhere, thats fine, but it should probably go somewhere other than Germany as that has a rather meaty tree atm. I mean add Norway to Japan due to fishing exports? I dont really care for the qualifiers for adding a nation to a specific tree, i just want a good game and fun vehicles.
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Gaijn won’t let us have fun vehicles or make tech trees make sense or make vehicles make sense thats why its so toxic to add copy-paste tech trees. For example, Italy can have the Hungary-bought hf-41 because they practically need it, but Gaijn still has a Puma IFV at 10.0 with a nerfed armor layout and a 30mm autocannon while Sweden is getting special treatment with leopard 2 variants.
Which tree outside of America, Soviet Union and Britain does not contain a load of imported stuff?
I dunno what this means, Norway, just like Sweden has nice chronological vehicle upgrades. From Chaffee to M48 to Leopard 2
Then why did you ask for the generic sub-tree justification? Because it has all the qualifiers for that
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