Northrop YF-23A Black Widow II - "So Stealthy They Forgot to Choose it"

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Northrop YF-23A Black Widow II

   Hello everybody. I’d like to introduce and suggest the Northrop YF-23A Black Widow II, the F-22’s competitor, for the US Aviation tech tree in War Thunder. The YF-23 is an American single-seat, twin-engine stealth fighter technology demonstrator prototype designed by Northrop and McDonnell Douglas in response to the US Air Force’s Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF) program, which began in the 1970s. During the demonstration and validation competition, two YF-23 prototypes were built and unofficially dubbed “Black Widow II”. These prototypes were evaluated alongside their competitor, the Lockheed YF-22. Although the YF-23 proved to be faster and stealthier, the YF-22 was more agile, logged more flight hours, and completed more sorties. As a result, the YF-22 won the ATF program in 1991, ending further development of the YF-23.

Key Characteristics

  • Stealth Jet Fighter Prototype, with a maximum speed higher than the YF-22
  • Ability to sustain supersonic flight without afterburners
  • Unlike the F-22, it lacks two-dimensional thrust vectoring nozzles and supermaneuverability capabilities.
  • Planned provisions are made for the AN/APG-77, AIM-9M Sidewinders, and AIM-120A/B AMRAAMs.

Conclusion | The implementation of YF-23A in War Thunder

   Since the YF-23A never progressed beyond the ATF competition (1990–1991), it was never equipped with military-furnished systems, leaving it essentially an unfinished prototype without operational avionics or weapons. However, the YF-23A could still find a place in War Thunder with special treatment, similar to the Yak-141. Fortunately, we know the YF-23A would have been equipped with the AN/APG-77 AESA radar in production, as this system was selected by the Northrop team, just as the Lockheed team chose the same radar for the YF-22.

   When it comes to armament, the YF-23’s fuselage would require significant modifications to accommodate two AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles in tandem weapons bays, necessitating a lengthened forward fuselage. This presents a challenge for Gaijin, as it may require creative liberties to model the YF-23A with an appearance closer to the planned production F-23 while remaining plausible and realistic based on available information.

   Despite these challenges for the implementation into the game, I believe the YF-23A could become a first fifth-generation jet fighter as a squadron or event vehicle in War Thunder. As a counterpart to the YF-22/F-22, the YF-23 offers greater range, superior stealth, and higher top-speed performance, albeit with less agility. In my opinion, this aircraft is simply too unique and extraordinary to be left out of War Thunder.

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Thank you for taking the time to read my suggestion! 😃

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+1 for the British Empire 🇬🇧

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so, important question.
flares?

That title…damn

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I got to see Gray Ghost in person, the coolest part was the interior tiles along the engine exterior. Almost like space shuttle heating tiles.

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Been to the US a few times i planned eventually seeing the YF-23’s such a unique design to bad the XF-22 won since Lockheed didn’t have financial problems.

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Real engineering projects are not gamers’ fantasy after all…

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Rather than look for memes on the internet.
I would read up on the program.

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I say it would be either a great event or squadron vehicle +1!

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Chaff and flares were definitely planned, at least for the production F-23, according to one of the unclassified F-23 team design proposals below. See on the left side, in the Group Weight Statement chart:

However, I don’t have answers to questions like how many chaff and flares it could carry or where they would be installed. My assumption: The chaff and flare dispensers might be modeled after the F-22A Raptor’s.

Here are additional diagrams:

Interestingly, this included planned provisions for both the IRST and missile launch detection sensors. More official F-23 drawings exist online, but they’re locked behind paywalls.

Here’s a cutaway diagram:

F-23cutway

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Ah! I always was fan of YF-23 since 2006.

+1

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Luckily then we have a precedent set by the Yak-141 that aircraft planned to receive countermeasures can get them. Good news to hear!

Anyway +1 from me, it’s an iconic prototype aircraft and I hope we see it someday. As for how it should be added, anything (EXCEPT A PREMIUM) should be fine really.

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Seeing how the F-20 ended up as premium I am a bit worried.

+1, but i dont think it should get sidewinders, countermeasures, or radar. afaik only AMRAAM was meant to be fired from weapons bay on the YF-23. APG-77 could have been changed to fit better in ways we cannot really know for sure, and while I’m sure the F-23 wouldve gotten countermeasures, the YF-23 didnt have them.

as we both know, IRST was dropped later in program, so even this drawing may not be accurate to final F-23

That is incorrect It had a trapeze design to launch the Aim-9s as you can see in the cut out above. For testing there was no requirement for firing so Northrop left out fire controls and it only carried a inert AIM-120 for testing. There was a few other designed that would have made it more advance than the F-22 such as a rotatory launcher they were thinking for the production variant but I could only see that launching the cost through the roof. Which is probably what the Air Force saw as well.

Cool unique aircraft in history though.

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This might be a bit of a snafu with getting it into the game, however I do believe it did conduct captive carriage of them.

The next time I make a hajj to the NMUSAF I’ll get lots of pictures and post them here.

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EXCUSE ME? british? are you ok?

Never felt better.