The point is to not allow people to control 75% of the map via one sniping spot, or to be able to lockdown spawns from areas that have nothing to do with the obj.
what are these pics tryna show
It shows that Type 10 [7 degrees] has a shorter distance to target than T-90A.
The more gun depression a tank of equal height has, the shorter the distance between the tank gun laying drive and the aimed point on the ground.
To further illustrate:
Proof of correct position:
Nobody can decipher any information about these pictures because you’re at an obtuse angle trying to eyeball depression. Stop clowning and put the camera alongside the tank 90 degrees at the height of the gun breach facing the tank’s side armor.
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It’s not about eyeballing depression, it’s noting where the gun’s circle appears on the ground for those ones.
And for the others, where the gun base sits when the circle on the ground is the same.
This is only to prove they have different gun depressions, not exact gun depression.
Though if both are wrong (a possibility) then it just shows they are different, and not that they have a historically accurate gun depression. Maybe they are both out by 2 degrees
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Updated the post.
But yeah, then you’d have to prove Type 10’s gun depression is in reality -9, and possibly Abrams is -12.
I think taking it back to the original thread/topic/point
Fighting soviets at top tier sucks. They do seem to get every single advantage handed to them. Just need to look at the protection analysis comparing say Challenger 2E vs T-80BVM. Combine with the fact that they do have advantages in CQC, like auto-loaders and smaller profiles. The widely reported mobility issues with a number of tanks (mainly a game limitation, but not overall a good excuse) that leaves heavy tanks serverly affected and lighter tanks, less so and then finally the fact that the main area that should provide an advantage to some tanks, gun depression. never really seems to matter, as the Soviet tanks seem to always be able to peak just fine. In some respect, they do sometimes seem they can peek better than some NATO tanks.
I think in this instance. Making absolutely damn sure they are accurate in these respects is fairly important. We have seen in other threads, that things like their armour is very likely not accurate at all.
I know you don’t believe dev bias is real… but I think there are just too many coincidences recently and everything needs to be challenged in my opinion
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You can design maps to be long range and yet also not let that happen.
I’m telling you what they’re likely referring to.
Between 0.26-0.36 this video shows exactly what im talking about.
İt seems like you’re the one who’s spreading misinformation not me buddy.
Everything you said is just the fault of absolutely horrendous map and mode design.
Moving EC battles like frontline from battlefield and wot or warfare and offensive from HLL would fix 90% of the problems this game has.
There is no camping one hill when your objectives can move, longer maps can have AI spaa around the spawns and you decide if you want to brawl, flank or snipe etc…
Dude, you posted a video that disproved your claim and proved me correct. XD
You claimed it was 1: Ahistorical; & 2: -7, identical to Type 10.
Wow, I was even smart enough not to make claims of what gun depression it was.
All I was out to do was disprove it was -7, which I did.
You didnt prove jack buddy, you just showed
some clown pictures.
On the other hand this video exactly shows how t80 has more gun depression then -5 degree.
İ dont know what kind of game you trying to play but im getting more and more tired every time i see false claims from you
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Dude, all the evidence showed I was correct.
Yet you insist that even that video is “false” and “misinformation” cause it substantiates my claim.
So not only you cant understand what you’re reading but you cant also understand what you’re watching and listening.
That video shows and tells that Russian high tier tanks does have more gun depression because of their angled down turret rings.
İn fact in that video they are comparing T80 with chinese tank which both have should -5 degree depression but T80 depress its gun more then chinese tank can do, which means my claim is actually true. Soviet high tier tanks does have more depression then -5 degree.
So basically what this video tells us your calculation is simply wrong and what i claimed is actually true, try to surprass your ego next time.
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Then we agree.
The video you shared is my calculation.
Video i shared is not your calculation.
By your calculation Soviet high tier tanks (such as T90A) should have -5 degree elevation, in this video they showed exactly the opposite.
That video shows T80 does have -7 degree gun depression which what i was claiming in the first place on the other hand you claimed Russian tanks doesnt have -7 degree depression by showing some random pictures with weird angles.
Either learn how to read or stop emberassing yourself.
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No, my calculation only showed that it had LESS THAN 7 degrees of gun depression.
That’s it.
I never once claimed it should have -5 degrees
And nope, that video claims that T-80 has -6 degrees, not -7.
Which is further proved by my images showcasing what -7 actually looks like with Type 10.
Your video disproved all the claims in this post of yours.
@Panther2995
I have no ego. I don’t even make claims of originality.
A medium for information is nothing special after all
Video doesn’t show -7, he states “an extra 1 degree of gun depression” 1 + 5 is 6, not 7.