Looks like we found Gaijin’s Target Audience peeps
I’m out of here. Can’t argue with people who’ve been overdosing on copium - it’ll give me a headache.
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Start from some dude call out Russian Bias of course.
I am sorry to say this i am playing this game since 2013 and russia has been given the better treatment many times.
Be it buggs that benefited them staying longer where it takes sometimes 3 days for one that affects other nations to get fixed.
And that is just the tipp of the iceberg.
Inbound for others calling me a western bot etc it will not make sense to discuss.
So, is there a Japan bias since they got the Type 10?
Or a China bias since they got the VT-4A1? (An extremely gutted, unrealistic version of the VT-4A1, but still).
Or an Italy bias, since the AMV is also quite new? (And extremely gutted in-game).
Germany just got the Leopard 2A7V and it’s also the best tank in the game.
All of these vehicles are from the 2010s. The T-90M is considerably worse than the 2A7V, too.
I’m quite sick of you people, and I’d prefer you stay on “russian bias” echo chambers such as reddit or the comment section of specific war thunder youtubers.
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I would invite you to see the edited foot note I left while back but also, some of my replies.
Youre surprised that ex-military play a military combat game?
A big part of their bravado is that Russia relies heavily on export military sales so naturally they want everyone and their mom to think it’s great. US doesnt have many export sales unless it’s part of a joint effort and to your point much more expensive.
If I recall even China cancelled orders of the Ka-52 because of the poor performance in Ukraine
Glad you agree with reality & War Thunder.
This is why things 30 years newer are the same BR as those from 30 years ago. They’re inferior.
If Russia was superior in War Thunder than T-72B 1989 would be 11.7.
I don’t even think Kamov could produce new airframes even if the Chinese Navy still wanted them. The thing’s basically an endangered species by now - certainly not too many left in one piece.
I agree with your post otherwise.
To start off with… This is why we cant have nice things…
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Like I said, this is why we cant have nice things (as in a debate about game play issues or non-issues)
What tends to happen is when someone is losing an argument, is that they tend to resort straight to insults… because they cant win with civilized words…
I never replied to the OP, because it is not really my place to be part of this community argument / debate, I gave my opinion in the other Thread… and I guess I should have mentioned that is just my opinion, and not the stance of Gaijin, since we Moderators can be mistaken for Developers at times
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May i suggest that instead of calling it guidelines it is changed to rules.
By definition guidelines are suggestions and are not mandatory. By calling them rules they now are required to be followed with repercussions to enforce them.
Because it a bit frustrating when people say they are going to enforce suggestions.
But this is also just a suggestion.
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Appreciate you
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Smell like some dudes talk like AK-12 being hated, no more missile from Russian or they can’ produce any T-90M/BVM/72B3.
Source please, China has a long history of buying other equipment, then copy/improves/replace with their domestic parts, from that, produce their own version with their own standard.
Not found any statement that they would buy/agreement willing to buy in the past.
Talk about Ka-52, ~40 shotdown (in 2022) because it being used with wrong combat tatic, count me how many take down for Ka in 2023 since they deployed 1 mil-28/1 ka-52/ 1 mil 8 as a squad of 3.
One bias is the BR system.
Germany has no tanks between 10.4-11.3. This means that 11.3 battle with possibly 90% of the players being german-team means 90% of the team is -1.0br. It’s just Leo2A4 & Leo2A4 PzBtl123, both 10.3, vs. whatever T-72B3’s and T-90s. Needless to say the gap between 11.3 and 10.3 is ridiculous. Now this is surely always the case in War Thunder, but in the lower tiers, say 5.3, you at least have a friend spawning next to you with a 6.3 and you both attack the enemy together.
But in 11.3 the entire german team is 10.3 as there are no tanks between 10.4-11.3. You don’t have a friend with 11.3 spawning next to you, nor a friend with 10.7 spawning infront of you. The germans are all 10.3 and will be butchered by enemy 11.3. This is just a waste of time.
Please fix this.
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Sorry - but I can’t take any of what you’ve written seriously since you posted 10x photos of the exact same tank in the exact same place (Challenger) and claimed that 10x Challenger losses have been recorded.
If you don’t work for a stand-up comedy routine (or the RU MOD - close enough) then you really should provide them with your CV. You appear to follow a similar set of talking points.
In answer to your second point I shall provide you with a source. Feel free to corroborate with any other outlets.
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Interesting, there is also no clue that they will cancel that order.
2 exactly and after that, no Challenger on the field, just Leo 2, Abrams still going around Kiev withouth any combat active.
So according to your analogy abrams, challenger, ariete, leclerc would be a dps character and Germany, Russia, Sweden would be tank and dps character. What gaijin should do is look at real life implications and results as a factor in their design.
They get info on western export tanks, but the west closely guards tech secrets and capabilites so enemies underestimate them. Dictatorships propagandize their tech to appear much better and stronger.
They then need to look at 30 yrs of abrams/chally results of their top assets in theatre. M1a1’s were bouncing t72’s…their equivalent at the time. Then came m1a2 and sep versions which only made them stronger and more resilient vs newer tech.
Russia on the other hand has been exposed as having serious flaws in their mbt as far as mobility, vision/awareness, and durability. Propaganda paperwork says nigh indestructible, real world says roman candle/paper tiger.
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And the confort of the crew is apparently not great in russian tanks.
Also in the current scenario, I guess that 99% of the russian army actually don’t want to fight in that stupid war while the other side would give their life to defend their country.
There are plenty of examples like that in History when a nation had tried to occupy a territory with inferior tech but suffered heavy losses because they underestimated occupied population’s mindset and superior knowledge of the area.
That was the wise advice that the french young president gave to experimented russian president before he decided to ignore it and use force instead of trying to discuss : Pure madness dementia.
Just like War Thunder.
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for years never complaint about ussr “never be a bias”. just play. never spawncamping as germans, never kill innocent AA that couldnt kill me.
but for a while i can say ussr is not a fighting nation, its your target to kill with one shot and make you satisfied.
for years when we say ussr bad they said skill issue
when a statics puplished they said its not prove real stats
when we get a good vehicle they cried about it and cause being nerfed
when we get a vehicle gaijin gives better version to other nations
my obj279 dies one shot everytime, even 30mm antiair kill me. but they say its op
as a ussr main, i only kill via one shot ussr vehicles in a battle, its make me so sad
i want every nation fight against their nation for a while and see what happened.