That is if you have a loaded shell to begin with.
As I said, autoloader module is already serving a very similar purpose.
getting shot mid reload is bad for literally every tank in the game, the point is its not as big of a downside to lose your autoloader as it is to lose all control of the turret.
Im sorry, “not as big of the downside” not being able to reload?! I know it sucks to get your horizontal/verticals knocked out, but it no near as bad as not being able to even return fire
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I play NATO nations and I support this change. (sort of)
If a tank gets penned from the side and shrapnel and such fly into the turret basket it will very likely cause damage to that system. The severity of the damage should determine if the basket can still function.
If no hydraulic lines are ruined and there is no large debris interfering with the rotation than the turret would be able to continue operating.
Conversely if the majority of the basket is past the crew likely is too and what difference would it make. If enough damage was inflicted to bend and warp the basket it would likely have issues rotating.
All that said the T-series and other autoloader tanks should have a similar draw back. As they are right now its 50/50 if my 120 mm APFSDS will detonate the autoloader when it should be almost 100 percent kaboom.
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you can return fire tho, if your already loaded. however if your turret cant turn you have pretty much have no means of return fire anyway.
And if you not? If you miss?
Hull turn, as in good old times then “Tops” were late WW2 tanks (or still, if you play Sweden). If not? You try to retreat (which western MBTs more than capable with their actually existing reverse and decent dynamic which Soviet MBTs dont have (and Chinese only partially on top))
Gaijin gonna say “We might never serve in the army, but we know more than him”
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if your not your dead in pretty much any tank anyway and if you miss then you played bad and the other player earned the kill.
saying just hull turn while the Russian tank still has full turret control is kinda the point when i say its not as big of a downside. (also not considering the fact you cant really aim for weakspots or targets at different elevations)
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not nerfed because not enough people play it to be worth the cost of modelling the turret basket
Yeah, probably
Thats on you budy, at least you had the opportunity to aim and shot back
You can still aim your gun with the hull.
Repairing your autoloader then reloading your shell should take you 20-30s, and that level of damage happens on most penetrations anyways.
The only thing that mmatters in this whole topic and ones in the future
“All of the top tier tanks are fake anyway. Anybody who works in tank development knows this. Therefore you are arguing for real documents, that don’t exist because of NATO classification procedures, to affect tanks that are imaginary.”
Quote from @Conte_Baracca
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That’s an overexaggeration to say the least.
You need to realize that autoloaders aren’t always filled to the brim and you could’ve easily shot at the empty part.
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Problem is, LFP shots for both vehicles now result in instant debilitation - taking out both the engine, driver, and now horizontal drive.
The whole idea that Abrams’ LFP was unreliable to effectively kill it is now out the window.
The only place where you can’t shoot is the Cheeks and sometimes the UFP.
As for the 2A7V, I can somewhat understand a nerf like this.
Yes because the auto loader actual had a purpose IRL. The turret basket did not control anything it saying it did. It as just for crew Comfort. This so just a nerf to some NATO tanks due to creating more 1 shot postal of the abram’s with the spall or a crazy reload time.
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Well, apparently they are going to add it to most, if not all NATO tanks in the future.
Though I’m not sure if Eastern MBTs would get the same treatment.
Ok, i’m not sure about other NATO tanks but the abram’s turret basket is for crew comfort and nothing else.
How is it useless? I’m pretty sure it is regarded as one of the lost armored and best MBTs in the world.