A little confused on this one, as the '184 is the T-72B '85.
Are you sure?
Cus Object 184 is T72B, but Object 187 is the one that I would say was better than T-90A for its time, and for gameplay reasons.
yes, yes … I meant to type the 187 not 184 …
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But it’s better to have different experience, so Object things like 219M and T-72b2 are not really wanted, they just like what’s in game, better but similar.
First of all I meant top tier … not the highest-end tier for my suggestions.
The vehicles I mentioned are unique of their own and are much varied than the current WT toptier situation with the same T-80Us, Abrams and Chally 2s but with different names and slight variations.
Would be great, it’s essentially a T-72BA put to T-90 standards with an LWS and such.
I see it as the T-80BVM counterpart of T-72B (but yes T-80BVM was essentially bringing T-80BVs near to the standards of the T-90M obr.2010)
seeing as this is a T-80U with arguably less armor and is much more exposed.
Yes but still way more interesting than the T-80UM2 (which is basic T-80U just with Drozd)
I personally see no reason for this, as this is just the aforementioned T-72B2, though it lacks certain systems and is built off of the chassis and turret of the '172, not the '184.
That’s not T-72M1M.
This is T-72M1M:
An export T-72M1 variant with many of the upgrades similar to T-80UM-1 “Bars”
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Intercepting the dart means it impacts the dart and either shoves it off course or fragments it so it does a lot less damage when it does hit the tank. In game it just weakens the dart down by I think 40ish percent, and the Chally’s are doing okay right now so its not that much of a handicap, especially the Black Knight
They’re both the T-72M1M, the name is used for about 6 different modernisations of the T-72M1.
nope ! you don’t want Bradly and CV90 in russian tec tree ! probably Leopard 2A6 and Abrams in future . those player base are too messed up .
my idea for follow up’s for the M60A3 TTS line (br volontarly ignored + this is only a idea that is subject to change due to new findings , or just organisation of the tree) , going for initialy a “M60 upgrade line” , transitioning into a “firepower prototype upgrade” style (yes i suck at making titles):
Vehicles in order :
(1) Folder 1 =}
(1-1)General Dynamics' M60H "M60-2000" (rank 6)
(1-2)Super M60/M60AX (rank 6)
(1-3)120-S (rank 6)
(2) Folder 2
(2-1)M-60 Low Profile Turret (LPT) (rank 6/7 ?)
(2-2)M1 ABRAMS Low Profile Turret (LPT) (rank 7)
(3) Folder 3
(3-1)M1A2 120mm M256E1 - L/55 (tube) (rank 7)
(3-2)M1A1 Abrams 140mm XM291 ATAC gun (rank 7)
(4) M1 TTB (rank 7)
(5) M1 THUMPER /M1 Component Advanced Technology Test Bed (1990)(rank 8)
(6)M1 CATTB (2000)(rank 8)
there is a couple of the vehicles that can do a bit of switcharo in that tree , like the M1 TTB and the M1 LPT .
I also remove the M1A1 HC , since i didn’t felt like it would fit , but if it had to stay i guess it would go before the M1A2-L55.
Those that didn’t quite fit in the theme
Abrams Lightweight Variant Tank (ALVT)
altought initially a good idea , i belived it would be more correct to place it in the/one of the light tank tree(_)/s
M1 "Fastdraw"
initially considerd but later decided it would just go to the abrams standard line instead
HD-40T Wombat
same as the ALVT , althought i was less confident with it from the get go
OMT "(first option)"
initially considerd but later decided it would just go to the abrams standard line instead
OMT "(varient 1)"
unshure or were it would finish
OMT "(varient 2)"
same as above
OMT "(varient 3)"
same as above
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i allow you guys to burn me all you want for that one if you find this idea bad
(also does that fit as a tech tree ? if so then sorry cause i know you aint supose to post some)
Also those are outdated trials which for example didn’t even used the produced Leclerc Tank
Yepppp, they applied this to the 2019 2A7V, which is over 20 years newer
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Nice idea to include the M60 upgrades after the TTS
now, that L/55 Abrams never had stabilizer … so don’t know if its a good idea to put it in the tree itself
and the concepts under the Those that didn’t quite fit in the theme list, were either only proposed and never created or just only mockups were produced.
Centurion LPT
Centurion mk.5 + 105mm Low Profile Turret
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well aware of this , this would be later upcommer’s in many years
I would love this placed behind the mbt-2000 in the tech tree
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Pakistan has a modern IFV too
Introducing viper IFVs
The following are the specs of the hull from an official government website: depo.govt.pk
Also comes with a spall liner , the turret is turra 30 a Slovenian evpu crewless turret with 2a42 and 2x kornet atgms launchers , the engine is a German 350hp
Might be a good addition if Pakistan comes as a sub tt for china
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What Miraz sent isn’t an IFV, though both vehicles would be absolutely lovely to see as a Pakistani sub-tree for China!
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ZTZ-98 would be a event vehicle most likely. It didn’t see mass production.
Pakistan has these two huge ifvs as well
Hamza 6x6
Hamza 8x8
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It’s the prototype of ZTZ-99, used as test platform.
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