This is what you get, when players don’t want to learn map basic and cry only they get flanked 😂
indeed
Belgian Fouga CM.170-1 Magister
The ultimate funny trainer jet, even fought in the Congo (and according to some sources from Swedish and Belgian pilots, even won a dogfight against a Swedish J-29A there, although both planes managed to return to base).
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Would be great to see for all its operators
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Netherlands got its ground vehicles, Belgium got its ground vehicles. It would be time that Switzerland gets its ground vehicles too.
Panzer 51, Panzer 55, Panzer 61, Panzer 68, Panzer B22L, Panzer 87, Panzer 87-140, …
An there are more.
On top, when can we see the early Mirage, the P51s, the B109, The Morane. Swiss Air Force is not complete yet
Yea Switzerland has so many things to offer, I wouldn’t be against a sixth line in the TT just for Switzerland
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Shameless plug: sixth line in Germany just for Swiss
gonna warn u, it’s old and disregard any C&P…also some vehicles are poorly researched…if I did at all
Swiss line feels too empty, I am pretty sure they had way more stuff. At least they use correct names for some tanks
I was dealing with school and didn’t have a lot of time to search around…I’m actually redoing it rn…just really really slowly…
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gaijin plz FV101
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The xm-246 sucked immensely in real life but it’s a 1000 times better in War Thunder so I think Gaijin will still fix it
Almost all the failed prototypes sucked in real life and they are good in war Thunder
Difference between a prototype and a NON FUNCTIONAL TEST VEHICLE.
A hypothetical Swiss tree being its own line could look something like this (I made this on a whim, probably missing a decent chunk of vehicles):
Rank I
- Praga LT-H
- Panzerjäger R 35 (f) [Not Swiss but a German modification of a French tank, however it is German, and the sole surviving model stands in the Swiss Armour Museum)
Rank II
- Nahkampfkanone 1 (10.5cm)
- Nahkampfkanone 1 (7.5cm)
Rank III
- Nahkampfkanone 2
- Panzerjäger G.13 (semi-unique Hetzer)
Rank IV
- Leichtpanzer 51 (AMX-13, so maybe, maybe not)
- Saurer Tartaruga
- Panzer 58 (might be better as the first rank V, not entirely sure)
Rank V
- Multiple versions of Panzer 61
- Panzer 55/57 (Centurion, so maybe, maybe not)
- Panzerjäger Taifun
- Mowag Tornado
- Plenty of other Mowag prototypes across this rank and the next
Rank VI
- Early Panzer 68 versions
- Mowag Shark
- Perhaps some Mowag Piranha versions
- Fliegerabwehrpanzer 68 (Second Gepard, because why not)
Rank VII
- Panzer 87 (Leo 2A4, so maybe, maybe not)
- Some more Mowag Piranha versions
Rank VIII
- No clue really. The Swiss haven’t modernized their Panzer 87’s too much iirc. So maybe an IFV, but otherwise this line might end at Rank VII.
The top of the line of swiss mbt’s will probably be the 140mm panzer 87 (but probably more rank VII than VIII)
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I would put it in the same but with the Object 292
Wrong. The whole electronics as Swiss modified. My boss was high ranking Panzer 68 commander was part of the Panzer87 project. He took part form zero to 100. We got different fire control system, different sensors than the regular 2A4. Its more an 2A6 but in a old hull. The CFO of the company I work for is a Leopard 2A4 commander on active duty. He has seen modification along his carreer on when he started in the Rekrutenschule and now in service.
The updated Panzer 87 WE (Werterhalt) was upgraded to the 2A8 level.
So we would have a
- Panzer 87 (Early) → 2A4 CH
- 71x Panzer 87 WE (Werterhalt) → 2A6 CH
- 134x Panzer 87 WE Kampfwertsteigerung (Late) → 2A8 CH
Tha Late athough still having a L/44 120mm gun, it got modified and is able to us newer amunition (Example Rh31which has a programmable fuse)
Late did receive new armor plates applied (ceramic composite type C)
We have a 7,5-mm-Panzermaschinengewehr 87 mounted.
Switzerland has modified the Leopard 2A4 by itself and as such it is not copy&paste.
In the Rüstungsprogram 2025 there was a position to acquire an “vendor unspecified” APS system for the 134 Leopards which are at 2A8 level.
In the Tank Museum Full-Reunthal you can go and see two additional prototypes of the Swiss Army Panzer 87. Tested but never rolled out. Has a complete turret overhaul with armor.
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