eh?
122mm Self-propelled howitzers that may appear on the Chinese tech tree
PLZ70
PLZ87/WZ203
Type63-122

PLZ89


PLL09


PLZ07B
PLZ07
WZ551-D30(Ethiopia)


M1991 M1992 M2018
Yeah, they’ve got anti-aircraft missiles(North Korean,may appear in other tech trees)
I’d like to see the 25x137mm M935A2 APFSDS-T round for the VBCI.
- From the KNDS France official catalogue:
- Bug report:
BTR-22 with BTR-82AT‘s turret
I would absolutley love to see the Object 640, i.e. “The Black Eagle”. No one can convince me this thing isn’t the hottest Russian tank ever created 😍
does there even exist enough information to correctly model it?
Dude, it’s the coolest Eastern origin MBT and one of the hottest overall MBT, period.
(Oplot-M comes in 2nd and ZTZ-99A in third)
[T-84 Yatagan leans abit more towards Western-style, so can’t include in that list but is the closest sibling to 640 in terms of design]
Mostly yea … but you gotta know that this was the prototype not the final intended design.
The final design had much different hull front (primarily), than just a reused T-80U hull albeit extended.
I had posted it in the old forum … lemme check if I can get those subtle design details.
Intended Object 640’s design print:
In the completed MBT, the absence of the carousel would’ve allowed the crew to sit lower and be better protected. Not in the prototype though, I think.
Imo, I’d go BM Oplot, PT-91 Twardy, T-64BM2 Bulat, T-72B3M, T-14 Armata
Don’t forget T-72M4CZ … it now ranks above Twardy now, in my list.
I dont consider Armata in that list, coz its comparatively too new, different and still abit secretive.
Yo yeah the T-72M4CZ is a beast. That reminds me, actually I’d have to say the Moderna tops my list.
And then there’s the whole Yugo/Serbian line of M-84s/91/95 as well, which are cool in their own rights.
Yeah, I’m gonna need to redo my list lol
1.) T-72M2 Moderna
2.) BM Oplot
3.) PT-91M2A2 Twardy
4.) M-84AS2
5.) T-64BM2 Bulat
this is so interesting… Challenger 2 inspired turret on chinese T-72 looking chassis and the Leopard 2 inspired turret on chinese chassis
I will always be down for more type 63 and type 62.
Lemme attempt a list as well,
- Black Eagle
- BM Oplot
- ZTZ-99A
- Object-219M, < which should’ve been the T-80U(V)M, instead of T-80BVM >
- M-95 Degman
Honorable mentions: T-84-120 Yatagan and PT-16 ~ can’t include coz those’re NATO 120mm modified
And considering …
- T-72M4CZ
- T-90M
- PT-91M2A2 Twardy
- T-64BM2 Bulat
- Cheonma-2 (M2020)
Extra Honorables: T-72B2 Rogatka, T-84U zr. 1999, T-72MP, Tifon-2A, TR-85M2 Bizonul, Chonma-216
For me anything of the T-72 family, all the way up from the T-72A to the T-72B3M. Also any related developments, including the T-90 and T-90M. Those tanks are just perfect.
that never stopped gaijin. But with those turret cheeks they better un-cripple nato rounds so we can actually pen the turret
Mantlet weakspot
doesnt seem to have one