Next Major Update "Sky Odyssey" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Very long time to wait for checks notes:

Su-35 and F-15EX

All the other 4.5 gens are upgrades on existing 4.5 models in-game (mainly just the newer versions of Rafale and JAS39E, IIRC).

Sensor fusion ✅
ECM 🚫
Reduced RCS 🚫
Enhanced flight models ✅*
AESA/PESA radar ✅

We’re just about there I think.

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On a case-by-case basis, obviously. Some aircraft are better than most, but the improvement is there. Not everyone can scream across the map like Eurofighter or Rafale can

This is always going to be an ongoing thing. The big part is only a small portion of the community plays Sim (where stuff like this matters), so it’s not an end of the world priority.

I must be imagining the AIM-120C-5s being launched at me from 45-50 km then…

Ah! Something we can agree on, especially after the changes to missiles this patch. We will have to wait and see (spoiler: it will be like the first day Fox-3 missiles dropped for everyone where everyone drops likes flies in the first days) how everything meshes together. Of course, I predict a BR bump for a lot of aircraft, especially the ‘safe’ 14.0 aircraft like F-15E or Mirage 2000-5F or by some miracle, the Su-30s of 13.3. We may have even 2 sets of BR decompression by end of year.

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Can’t agree with his statements of that far but this is also assuming they would just completely ignore ground and navel for every update lmao

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One thing is for certain, Naval is getting at least 2 ships an update lol

He is right, there is even 3th gen aircraft that need to be added, and alot of 4th gen

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This is true, all Gaijin cares about is powercreep.

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It’s going to be worse ingame, significantly

It’s over 2000kg heavier than the A

When it’s the Rafale it’s fine and a long waited addition, but 5th gen is just power creep right?

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Somehow I can already seeing them wanting to add X when 5th gen comes

it will have worse speed and climb, but should have better turn performance and energy retention due to the much larger wing

Both were powercreep. Rafale shouldn’t have been added when it did. It would have been added around the time of F-15EX if it was up to me.

In fact @quartas121, I said shortly before the Rafale was added, that it doesn’t need to come, mainly because I was concerned that they would not fix the MICAs for a long while if it was on a better platform versus on a more limited airframe like the Mirage 2000.

Sensor fusion is in-game?

eh… they still cant get hte instructor right on the Typhoon and Drag still doesnt exist for the Rafale.

Ha, this one is especially funny.
2026 is coming to an end and yet IRST’s, even the more modern ones, barely do anything.
“Fusing” with the radar/rwr?
Decent detection/lock ranges?
TWS???

Hell, even some kind of C-scope that is AT LEAST somewhat more readable than the current one would have been a great upgrade. Yet here we are, discussing 5th gens.

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Not proper sensor fusion there is a sort of sensor fusion lite on a few aircraft. Some with MAWS can distinguish between IR and radar guided missiles and dispense the needed type of CM on it’s own. Off the top of my head I know the Typhoons (except for Italy’s), Harrier GR.7 and Rafale have it.

Yep. Even funnier when you add on external IRSTs that were added and then quickly removed

This I really dont get, because its just a radar in the code I think. So I dont know why having usable IRST would be that difficult, and probably not OP given the BRs involved

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Eh… I suppose, though that is just “is there an RWR signal from the same direction?”

if yes drop chaff, if no drop flares.

and its missing from quite a few aircraft, like even the Tornado GR4 should be able to do that iirc.

Sensor fusion to me is more like, being able to use radar and IRST at the same time. Being able to direct radar and/or IRST onto a RWR or MAWS contact. Direct Tpods onto an ESM contact (if/when we get ESM)

etc etc

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They will introduce 5th gens with our Husarz trust

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Tell me, do you think the F-16 retains energy well compared to an F/A-18?

A bigger wing doesn’t necessarily mean better energy retention especially with such a big weight increase

Even something as small as switching from C-scope to B-scope would make them infinitely more useful, given that most if not all IRST’s at 12.0+ explicitly do have ranging ability implemented, unlike the earlier ones.

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Yeah. Tbh, I really want a C/B Scope toggle for radars period. Whether that be radar or IRST

Would be handy in ASB

I wonder when we’ll see these get added properly. LEGION/LEGION-ES and maybe Tiger Eyes will be great additions.

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