Next Major Update "Sky Odyssey" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Lad, that was the thing I asked Smin. But the PzH.2000 we are getting is based of the only 2 PzH.2000 100% german, not modifications or nothing by Italy, that Italy bought before to test them and all.

That why I asked if we will get the Italian PzH.2000 too, and not just the German copy-paste.

Edit: Ik the Italian had the LwS, also with GALIX, and other things. And that’s the one I thought at first Italy would get, but I was a fool to believe they wouldn’t be that lazy to just Cntrl C + Cntrl V.

@Alpharius11348 @KhorneFlakez1337

did a spreadsheet for total Air/ground kills vs Spawn and deaths for a few aircraft if you are interested

British AESA F-15C GE Rafale C F3 German AESA Su-30SM2 Average AESA
Games played 88,850 363,173 290,907 279,678 751,684 152,934
Spawns 95,798 379,327 300,325 297,003 777,230 163,530
Air Kills 113,463 480,831 365,723 278,869 641,527 165,233
Ground Kills 26,775 37,612 84,274 98,196 553,569 54,009
Total Kills 140,238 518,443 449,997 377,065 1,195,096 219,242
Deaths 64,410 282,297 221,347 221,222 578,194 117,687
K/D 2.17 1.83 2.03 1.52 2.06 1.86
K/S 1.46 1.36 1.49 1.26 1.53 1.38

Edit: Added an average for all 3 AESAs too

My takeaway:
The SM2 clearly needs a buff in the A2A department as it has a negative K/D against air targets ;]

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A2G*

Clearly those KH-38MTs and KH-31s arent good enough

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I don’t know why, but I had the idea that K/S might be a better metric to determine air to air performance, but that makes not much sense. I think I’m too tired right now to discuss this properly.

It is too bad that statshark can’t filter based on mode and always includes deaths from both ARB and GRB.

I will admit that now knowing that the ground kills don’t get factored in, the Rafale and the Typhoons definitely perform better.

From a specs point of view (ignoring player performance) I still think the F-15C GE should be (or rather, should have been, now that the pylons are being fixed) 14.7. Either that or the J-15T should sit at 14.3 and a bunch of 14.3s should sit at 14.0.
That’s just a compression problem though.

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@Smin1080p_WT How long must Germany’s Leopard 2A7V maintain an incorrect armor protection rating?

Germany’s sequence of additional armored development was as follows. After the IVT, whose name was changed due to the installation of the IFIS (Integrated Command and Information System) system at KVT, the KVT, IVT, and other development vehicles followed. Based on the experience gained from this development program, a prototype of the TVM series was produced.

The TVM Max later demonstrated an armored protection level associated with Sweden’s Strv 122 series. The vehicle developed from the TVM series was the Leopard 2A6EX. Starting with Leopard 2A6EX, the Leopard 2A7 series adopted the same protection testing approach and added several improvements.

But why haven’t Germany’s Leopard 2A7V and Hungary’s Leopard 2A7, Embt, and others yet been modified to reflect a protection rating like TVM’s? It appears to maintain a lower protection rating, corresponding to earlier IVT technology. Even though the bug lift passed

Why hasn’t this mismatch been fixed yet? Community Bug Reporting System

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i agree that J-15T should be 14.3, but only 14.3 that could be moved down is PoBIT maybe since it really just has nothing going for it

POBIT needs double amraam rack, idk if that exists IRL or not but 8+2 would make it competitive

triple rack for it is more real than double for eft

has been shown in renders, proposed and even ordered by turkey (before order was canceled)

so would either be 10 or 14 (idk where youd get the +2 because f16 runs amraams on wingtips)

double racks also exist in renders, also the dual racks exist for the aim9s and are compatible with the AMRAAM so not really fake

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ignoring all the other factors I see

proof?

So it seems we can finally replace the 2 outer PL-8Bs on this flight model for PL-12As on the J16.

However, at the same time it has lost the ability to carry double racks like the J-15T did?

Can someone explain why this is the case? It seems like the J16 should be able to carry 12 PL-12As considering that it’s bigger than the J15T

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maybe thats because the J15 shouldnt have those double racks either…

I’m not suggesting that anything besides the J-15T should actually be moved down.

What I was trying to say is that compared to the F-15C GE certain 14.3s really seem pretty week, that includes the PoBIT as you mentioned, but also the F-16V, the F/A-18E/F and (at least according to what I’ve heard from others) the J-10C.

As I’ve said, this is a compression problem and actually moving anything down just makes it worse.
Now that the F-15C GE is getting that missile rack fix, I am completely on board with it staying at 14.3, but prior to that, it should have been sitting at 14.7 with the Typhoons and Rafales for the sake of even the tiniest bit of decompression.

Hopefully Gaijin will raise the top BR again soon…

Are new air to ground munitions planned for j-16 since its in the ground attack line ?

I just had a B-17 tank a 75mm from the Hs-129 to its engine ._.

The issue tracker currently does not accept any issues regarding base weight or empty weight, so I have to post this here instead.

AIM-7 Sparrow mogging R-27ER, AIM-120 is not something I was expecting xD

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amraam buff next 👀

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I reckon they’ll buff them same time as all the others (including new, yet to be added ones…)

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