Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion

Leopard 2HEL,
Leopard 2HEL (105mm),
Leopard 2HEL (2013)
So at least Israel gets 2 top tier tanks and the 105mm at 12.3-12.7 to go with the Merkavas

Oh, first time I hear about a 2013 subvariant! In which would it differ?

I really hope both HELs come, as they would bring more lineup options than a single tank. The 105mm one would be extremely hard to balance; Leopard 2A7HU protection but IPM1 firepower lmao.

Eh, just gave the 105 version DM63 :3

Then it would have even worse firepower than IPM1, making the gap between firepower and protection/survivability even wider and thus the tank even harder to balance lmao.

Would just be another 13.0 jet

But DM63 is the best you can get for a 105 (using Rheinmetall ammo)
105 DM63(430mm) is 51mm worse than 120 DM33 (481mm)

arietes dont even make the list lol

Arietes are not real :)

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neither do any of the chinese ones

also:
12.0 for VT4 and VT4A1 (with fixes)
12.3 for ZTZ99A and WZ1001 (with fixes)

My bad, adding, hshah

Did Rheinmetall just cease its 105mm production? MECAR still produces and develops 105 mm ammo (as KNDS Belgium/MECAR) that are much better than DM63.

they could go higher if gaijin adds their spallliner and Laser ircm (99 series only)

maybe? but for them being at 12.7 you really need to fix up anything, otherwise no, 12.3 is balanced as
in no world they are 12.7 worthy like 2a6 or or m1a2s (by list i mean)

tranche 1 EFT or something maybe.

but gaijin is alzy so the MKI is pretty likely

No Idea, atleast I am not aware of something better as DM63 from Rheinmetall

oh no

i think gaijin should add an EF with all the proposed and upcoming upgrades, a super EF

/s

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Maybe a Saudi Typhoon T2?

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Should add the P4E kit. Same as the AESA version but AMK, Striker II HMD and the Large Area Display. Although maybe as a modification rather than another 400k rp sink.