you were using American jets for longer
Ground forces wise. And again German companies did try to make jets for the Luftwaffe like the ha200 (while made for Spain Messerschmitt did try to get Germany to adopt it what didn’t happen) and btw A LOT of American lobbying happening like with the introduction of the f104 what wasn’t liked
Everyone camps now at the DC
It’s always dead until the devblog season starts
I wonder… when may Russia start getting T-14s?
I’ve got to admit, the T-90s and their 7 second reloads don’t feel particularly exciting as the top BR, end of the line vehicles of the tree.
And T-80BVM, yet unmatched, has been ingame for 5 years now.
Russia could get a 2020s BVM, but I think they may benefit from a more exciting addition at this point!
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object 219m or Burlak turret T80 would be very refreshing, much better then the once-again T90M but APS tradeoff sidearmor bags…
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Probably soon. Its the only aspect where the soviets arent currently the meta
Air
Bluewater
Coastal
Ground in all-aspects except MBTs
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Germany with 2A7V since two years and no new compareable backup.
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agreed on the others
But specify it’s for CAS, su30sm2 is good but rafale rules undisputed…and is still yet to get a substantial nerf, and AESA eurofighters are hella good
Rafale is overperforming at high alt, and the MICAs remain the strongest Fox-3 on a singular basis.
AESA EFTs are very good, but rather severly handicapped by poor missiles and the state of BOL.
Both are competitive sure… But not the meta
220° FoR radar, with HOBS Fox-2s and Fox-3s. The second best Fox-3s which are very potent in short ranges and then 2+12 weapons fit… All on a very tanky platform, that is kinematically fine…
Its only downside is the lack of spherical RWR, but played smart, that can be mitigated
The Su-30SM2 is currently the meta. Especially with the current state of MCM.
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so is su30sm2 waiting fixes for his countermeasuress btw so
i mean yeah? its good, but its the only one after a swamp of mid called MIGs and su27s
with compression of BRs not helping minimally in all of this
russia air getting called Meta for having a few good addition is counter-intuitive imo
Indeed :/
Meanwhile, Sweden has 3x Strv 122s, oof!
That being said, when it comes to Germany, I almost care more about new thermals than enhanced armor, hahah.
2A8 would be nice, but if it’s too early for that, then 2A7A1, regular 2A7, or even 2A6A3 would be nice… just give me some more 3rd gen thermals!
I would love it if 2A6A3 could be a mod for 2A6 rather than a new vehicle.
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germany top tier IRIS-T aside is really getting mistreated, hope they can get something good anytime soon!
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Sure, but its 98 LCMs. Thats a pretty solid laodout that I would take over the micro CMs the Typhoon has that dont always work. Especially given they should be 4-6x stronger than they currently
By this logic, after Britain had to deal with Tornados, Harriers and co. The Typhoon should have ASRAAMs and Meteors by now.
Though, given the under BRed nature of the Su-30 Premium and Su-33. This doesnt really track.
The point is… The Su-30SM2 got a radar and engines it never used, because it was tested, maybe. But basic features and bug fixes for other aircraft havent even been looked at, even after being reported 18+ months ago. For example, the Typhoon still hasnt gotten UV filter for the cockpit HUD yet.
It is by far the strongest aircraft at top tier at the moment, which is no surprise after the Soyuz, BMPT, Pantsirs (both of them), BUK, SKR-7 and AK-225.
Then when you look at A2G and not just A2A… KH-38MTs remain the strongest AGM in-game and KH-31PD the strongest ARM in-game (the KH-31 is strong in fact that the devs have actually admitted its super strong and are rapidly planning to add much stronger NATO ARMs next major update to compete)
You mean that IRIS-T which cant kill 90% of the Helis you face?
Yea, realy strong
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it’s a problem of all AAs that aren’t optic-tracked, IRIS-T is not the best but even in his nerfed state remains a really good AA
Hopefully 2a6EX soon and like the 2 2a7+ :3
When everyone else gets ultra modern tanks of similar capabilities
and to no ones surprise only 1 nation has one of those at the moment (well, actually they have 2 competitive examples at top tier)
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Practically useless for war thunder the regular 2a4 was basically a fancy 2a7. While cool it wouldn’t be 2a7V capabilities