Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion

meh yes and no. the imfamous rafale kill on the F-22 with fuel tanks was slightly held back. overall i so still think that a eurocanard in WT will curbstomp raptors in the dogfight. not to mention that the F-22 will have worse missiles than the eurocanards. 9X will be close to the likes of ASRAAM but an amraam isnt going to cut it vs meteors and such

i agree that the F-35 wont be a dogfighter, tbh its not much of an anything beyond a reduced viability imho, but i am a hater of the lightning 2

not really, 9X and ASRAAM fill different roles, 9X is basically a worse IRIST while the ASRAAM is meant as a long range IR missiles, its meant to be fired at 30+ km away from the target and close the distance fast so even in that situation the F22 is kinda screwed

honestly thats the issue with the US right now there isnt much better they can get in terms of A2A weapons, their new gen of BVR missiles is still in the testing phase so shouldn’t be added as other weapons have also been denied on such grounds, and the 9X is defiantly the worst of the gen5s IIR missiles

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Also other COIN aircraft too like the AT-6E and Sky Warden which aren’t WW2 but still props that are missing.

And as a hopeful bonus there’s also the L-4H Grasshopper Rosie the Rocketer but that would probably be an event or GE premium.

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It’s a bug with that button specifically (feel free to create a bug report for it, i don’t know if there already is one).

The view still exists and can be accessed through the key bind found in “Controls” → “Spectator camera” → “Switch to player’s view” .

The Rafale started on the Raptor’s six no? That’s not just “slightly held back”

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Yup, the plan was mentioned in BVV_d’s update on the Nuclear thunder mode:

Nothing official mentioned on specifics yet as far as i know.

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It never had fuel tanks which was visibly confirmed in the video.

yea bro we can tell from the amazing quality the footage is in
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No, they started side by side although I guess one could argue that’s being “held back” just because the Rafale as a delta could have made a sharper initial turn-in.

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Feel free to watch Gronky and Lemoine (Former US F-18 and F-16 pilots) analysis on the Rafale video dogfight. They concluded that the F-22 and Rafale started off equally (side-by-side) and the F-22 didn’t have fuel tank on.

Did datamine show any potential nuclear carrier for the red side? Could Mig-29 be one?

So far just the f16, but probably very soon red side’s one will be shown

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I think that confirms F-15EX next update then
F-15EX next update, i know it :D

people have always taken the word stealth the wrong ay acting like its invincible when thats really not the case

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I don’t think so, it would either be as good as rafale or eft in a dogfight

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it would turn better once then lose all of its speed if using TVC

remember. Rafale has a buttload of fake buffs to it. not sure what i can discuss on forums about it but some bad faith actors did a lot of work.

even if F-22 was the absurd slayer of gods that freeaboos think it is, a WT rafales gonna dumpster it

The problem with the F-22 is that aircraft with a lot of weight just dumps speed like nothing else in-game regardless of the amount of thrust. While the F-22 would have the highest TWR in the game, it also would weigh just as much as a Sukhoi if not more, which means every turn would dump speed like crazy.

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Gaijin could model it according to the British trails since actualy STR and ITR are still classified


(Originally posted by Kivzy)
22 degree STR and 37 degree ITR does not sound bad

Doesn’t have to use TVC to dump speed either, like a lot of very heavy flight models in-game, for example the Sukhois, and allegedly the F-22 is just as heavy if not more than the sukhois.