Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion

[Kenny110]

2027 for sepv3 maybe but that’s being optimistic.

[DirectSupport]

I think it would be justified to be added as a separate aircraft if new missiles are locked behind it.

[Knuckles7080-live]

Don’t forget the F-14D even tho it not a late 4 gen aircraft

[KhorneFlakez1337]

Well, if we actually end up not getting into 5th gen this year, maybe we’ll finally get some updates entirely focusing on WW2, Korean War and Cold War content

Could Gaijin realized that the existing game modes are in serious need of major overhauls? Could we finally see ECM, perhaps even plane to plane datalink?

Spoiler

Still not buying the “no 5th gen this year” statement, ain’t no way Gaijin is gonna resist that F-22 money

[quartas121]

@KhorneFlakez1337

updates entirely focusing on WW2, Korean War and Cold War content

yeah for infantry lol

[WaffleStomp0768-live]

@KhorneFlakez1337

some updates entirely focusing on WW2, Korean War and Cold War content

You mean the BR’s that are absolutely the most fun, but aren’t able to generate $80 per premium vehicle? Yeah right.

[YaSen]

They can make like rank III premiums with removed fines for researching any ranks and sell it for the same price.

[BasherBenDawg8]

@KhorneFlakez1337

Kfir C.1

There’s no such thing as a Kfir C.1 as I understand it (some people like to refer to the Kfir Gderot, or Kfir “Canard” as it’s called ingame, as the C.1 but that’s not official in any way)

[KhorneFlakez1337]

I’ve been looking around on the web a bit myself, as far as I can tell there indeed was no “Kfir C.1”, rather just a Kfir.
The Kfir Canard is a modified variant of the baseline Kfir, adding the Canards and other features to bring the baseline Kfir as close to the C.2 standard as possible. The F-21A Kfir (US Aggressor plane, unarmed) apparently was based on the modification.

There is a suggestion for the baseline Kfir on the forum as well

IAI Kfir (Early production), Birth of the lion cub

poll [Israeli_Air_Force_-_Coat_of_arms_svg.png.d9d05395678c9fb0366e602cc452463c] [Kfir Early title] Introduction The IAI Kfir was an Israeli modification of the French Dassault Mirage 5 centered around the idea of transplanting the airframe with the American General Electric J-79 engine which was more powerful and reliable than the original SNECMA Atar 9C and presented part commonality with the IAF’s fleet of F-4E Phantom IIs. The Kfir is one of the IAF’s most iconic aircraft and a hallmark of…

[BasherBenDawg8]

Yep, the whole C.1 thing is likely just some online nickname or misinfo I bet. There is a bunch of Kfir variants yet to be added (like the base Kfir suggested there), but the only real prototype I can think of is the IAI Kfir 2000 (A C.2 upgraded to be the C.10 testbed) and that one funny spin recovery prototype which we got a marketplace skin for (the new red and white camo for the C.2):

If there’s any others yoyo would know, (happens to be the creator of that suggestion you linked, he’s the go too Kfir guy), but I didn’t think I’ve ever seen him mention any other prototypes than those ones.

[DirectSupport]

Developers seem to be on holidays but usually upon their arrival they start working on bugs and historical reports.

Dates of when we first start seeing changelogs of developers working on historical reports based on past history. By historical reports, I mean reports with sources attached, not game bug reports.

2023- January 17 (Tuesday)
2024- January 18 (Thursday)
2025- January 17 (Friday)

[noister]

Damn

[Smin1080p_WT]

@KhorneFlakez1337

Still not buying the “no 5th gen this year” statement

There was no such statement. Oxy was specifically answering on the F-22.

The only statement made on 5th gen as a whole was this one last year:

@magazine2

Finally today, as we always receive a lot of questions on this topic, we wanted to share a few details regarding our plans for 5th gen aircraft. Here’s a message from War Thunder’s Game Director, Viacheslav Bulannikov:

“We’re happy to see the attention the game is getting and the enthusiasm for modern aviation, and today we want to talk a bit more about our plans regarding 4++ and 5th generation aircraft specifically.

The game already has the first iconic examples of 4+ and 4++ generation aircraft, but we plan to add a few more of these aircraft to different research trees before moving on to 5th generation aircraft. At the moment for example, not all nations have top fighters with the most modern electronically scanned array radars, and we would like to close this gap first. There are also several modern air warfare technologies that can enrich gameplay that have not yet been implemented in War Thunder.

This process will take several major updates, and the first 5th generation aircraft will not appear in the game before the second half of next year. We hope this news will not upset fans of these aircraft too much, especially as there are a lot of interesting aircraft ahead.”

[Grzegames]

Mr. @Smin1080p_WT , do you know when the Ki-148 will be added to the regular tech tree? If I remember correctly, there was talk of it being temporarily reserved as a premium item. This would be a very good reinforcement for the Ki-102 Otsu.

[141_allen]

J-20 can just leave the missiles outside of the bay while the bay closes. F22 and Su57 both can have the bay open.

@Morvran_

But ECM is gunna be the interseting thing if/when it is added

I feel like Gaijin is gonna balance things and give everyone the same ECM, just like seekers of ARH missiles.

@Smugspite

the J-20 is anywhere between 0.1 and 0.8 so if we take the middle like the Su57 its still more stealth

Sources?

@SPANISH_AVENGER

…and that’s why Sukhoi themselves already set that range between 0.1 and 1 m2.

@Smugspite

RCS we know of for the Eurofighter is also 0.5

The original thing was a definite value was given thus why he likely said it could vary.

@SPANISH_AVENGER

That’s how Gaijin works; they prefer to use solid but outdated information rather than educated guesstimations.

Now here’s the issue as I brought it up to Smin, these things can’t be bug reported since we have no sources, but some of these things just from a common sense point of view can’t be true, such as the drag of certain aircrafts and the armour of certain tanks. Gaijin either accept guesswork is used in the future, or simply can not add more advanced vehicles.

[efetenekeci]

Usually the December update publishes the first examples of what is going to be added later in the next year.

Therefore we can expect more sub-tree vehicles for Japan (Useful or not), more infantry (not my type) and more 4+ gen aircraft. Also in-development ground vehicles like Ajax and Booker can be expected too.

[YaSen]

@141 allen

J-20 can just leave the missiles outside of the bay while the bay closes

Why do we have all this talkings about J20? It’s already in the game)

Spoiler

Doesn’t have any missiles btw.

[GTP_Paulie-psn]

It’s almost like Australia and Canada have an awful lot of content yet to be added and without a new combined tech tree, or nation folders, there are no good answers within the current trees and system.

[141_allen]

That’s kinda why we use the dash. J-35 F-35 J-20 vs J35 F35 J20.

Nice one though.

[Clap6005-live]

Warthunder players not familiar with hyphens