Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion

[amApollo-psn]

@Morvran

If this is such a major issue, there is always CEASER (which, quite frankly we should ahve had from day one given the Rafale has AESA, not its PESA) that is just AESA like everyone elses. But the Gripen E will have the same Gimball and so teh same advantage.

I’m just pointing out that saying EF should have AESA “because Rafale and SU30 has one” is not entirely fair due to the captor E being seemingly vastly superior to those other ESA radars with the gimbal. Also Gripen E is not in the game, or confirmed to be coming so I’m not sure why we’re using that comparison to begin with.

@Morvran

Come on, it’s been a year now and we still have basic issues untouched. Like our HUD is still squished. They added UV coating to the external model only, BOL still broken. SAL Brimstone 1s still, Training ammo still in the gun (was fixed on the Gripen like 18 months ago), and the CAPTOR-M is still notoriously buggy

Every nation in the game has bugs and missing features… Especially aesthetic ones. At least Eurofighter has by far the most fleshed out and best HMD.

Again I’m not against Eurofighter receiving the radar, I just think some of the complaints are a bit overblown

[Morvran]

@Smin1080p_WT

AESAs have the features of AESA radars. That’s the point of them. No mechanical scan radar has the mode you are referring too. This is the sole outstanding report spesific to CAPTOR-M.

So, like I originally said, you wont model P-Track on the M-Scans, even though the needed code is already in-game, found on the AESAs and without it, the CAPTOR-M can barely maintain track. Especially as its scan-rate is set as if it was operating under max P-Track.

@Smin1080p_WT

This is a wider issue of TWS. Its not spesific or limited to CAPTOR.

So, is it ever going to be fixed?

[Morvran]

@amApollo-psn

I’m just pointing out that saying EF should have AESA “because Rafale and SU30 has one” is not entirely fair due to the captor E being seemingly vastly superior to those other ESA radars with the gimbal.

Which again, means that if CAPTOR-E is simply too good. We could always get a different AESA that the Typhoon did actually equip in Trials.

@amApollo-psn

Also Gripen E is not in the game, or confirmed to be coming so I’m not sure why we’re using that comparison to begin with.

Its bound to be coming sooner rather than later. More than likely this coming major.

@amApollo-psn

Every nation in the game has bugs and missing features… Especially aesthetic ones. At least Eurofighter has by far the most fleshed out and best HMD.

Which only took about 8 months, but yes, we do have a good HMD. Just a shame the rest of the cockpit / HUD is so frustrating to use at the moment I cant be bothered to touch SB in it currently. I really dont think C&P over the ammo belts from the Gripen, or reverting the cockpit to what it was on the dev server would be all that hard. But alas, the Rafale is the higher priority at the moment

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Morvran

So, like I originally said, you wont model P-Track on the M-Scans, even though the needed code is already in-game, found on the AESAs

This simply makes the CAPTOR-M an AESA. Which it is not, and why that’s not how it works. The mode on M scan radars is different entirely and an entirely new mode, which we do not yet have. Hence why there is a forwarded suggestion report for it.

[141_allen]

Yo smin is working late today.

[Morvran]

There is code for update delay of the additional contacts, this could be increased to 2 seconds

There is code for how many the AESA can track, this could be decreased to 6.

Congrats, you have modeled P-track.

@MythicPi suggested this ages ago. Just seems really wierd gaijin wont reuse existing code for something that is already in game

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Morvran

There is code for update delay of the additional contacts, this could be increased to 2 seconds

There is code for how many the AESA can track, this could be decreased to 6.

Congrats, you have modeled P-track.

Unfortunately it doesn’t work as simply as that. But this has all previously been explained to you. So its pointless to repeat it yet again.

CAPTOR is not the only radar in game without this mode. This is also the last remaining report open on CAPTOR. So your original claim that its somehow entirely incorrect and a million miles from where it should be is not correct im afraid.

[Morvran]

Well, here’s hoping for AESA this decemeber then.

Maybe then we can have a radar that can keep track of a single contact in TWS.

(And the last few times ive tried to play the Typhoon, I had contacts bouncing all over the place, by 100s of metres)

[KhorneFlakez1337]

Literally just add Storm Shadow at this point

Kh-59ME already pushed the range ceiling to 120km

[AblativeKitten]

Cope time one again huh…

[Smin1080p_WT]

Its how you know your in the rumour roundup after all.

[amApollo-psn]

@Morvran

Which again, means that if CAPTOR-E is simply too good. We could always get a different AESA that the Typhoon did actually equip in Trials.

Sure, but I’m not against Captor-E either.

@Morvran

It’s bound to be coming sooner rather than later. More than likely this coming major

So is the Eurofighter with Captor-E

@Morvran

but yes, we do have a good HMD.

The best

@Morvran

I cant be bothered to touch SB in it currently.

That’s a shame, it’s a super cool aircraft, to each their own

[141_allen]

That’s sort of not the same stuff, a slow, easy to intercept designated antiship missile does not equate sth of storm shadow level. Not even close. At that point, what’s the difference if tomahawk is added?

[Flame2512]

@KhorneFlakez1337

Literally just add Storm Shadow at this point

Storm Shadow really wouldn’t be anything special, it can’t track moving targets so would just be a super long-range 1,000 lb GPS guided bomb.

[joshje100]

@Smin1080p_WT Sorry to bother you but do you know if the HUD tint is finally to be resolved for the Typhoons?

The tint was added last update but only when viewing the HUD at side angles.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/D6gsNVkrJ2la

Or perhaps the cockpit gunsight will be fixed?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jPRgK6FGgZsj

[Morvran]

@amApollo-psn

That’s a shame, it’s a super cool aircraft, to each their own

Yeah, but between the stale and terrible state of SB at the moemnt and the fact that Rafales and Su-30s find you instantly and im lucky if I get a single radar ping on someone let alone actually get a good enough track to fire back in time… Perticularly as im firing back with weaker missiles than both.

I just cant be bothered. And thats ontop of all the HUD and Cockpit issues that just get irritating. LIke seriously, an entire year to un-squish the HUD, really gaijin?

Maybe with the Contrail changes I might have a go at some point, but i just cant be bothered ot touch higher BR ARB/ASB at the moment

[amApollo-psn]

squished HUD? you mean how it doesn’t cover the whole thing like in the Gripen?

[Morvran]

No, the HUD is litereally squished. UI elements that should be perfect circles are noticably oval and a lot of the text looks… kinda wierd

Was fine, then they broke it, and then broke it again, and have only just managed to fix the second breaking of the HUD, but have yet to get it back to what it was like on the dev server

[amApollo-psn]

Right

[KhorneFlakez1337]

The Kh-59M(E) is a land attack cruise missile, the MK would be the anti ship missile.
Based on Gaijins implementation of sea skimming missiles the Storm Shadow would be extremely easy to intercept as well.