The issue is that basically all recent SA additions have replaced domestic options and/or been totally worthless.
if the badger had been a really solid 10.7 option, then its a shame it wasnt something domestic, but oh well. we at least got what we needed.
Did we really need a weak IFV the size of a double decker bus for a BR where we already had 4 perfectly acceptable IFVs to call upon?
Just feels like every single SA addition is a disappointment.
If we got the Olifant Mk2 next major update or any update before getting the Skysabre AND Ajax AND maybe even teh Challenger 3(P) Id be very disappointed. Those 3 additions should be considered high priority. A side-grade, maybe even downgrade over teh Challenger 1s, should be considered low priority.
That is my issue. We got basically nothing this major update for ground, instead of either of hte additions we’ve been waiting more than 2 years for
Not every nation sure but the point still stand that many people play war thunder are from these nations and want their tech to be represented, it’s not fair and defo not right to call their tech useless and shouldn’t be added.
when compared to them just adding clutter to the tree then yeah it is, most of SA adds nothing to the tree that wasnt already available, or worse case it has instead come instead of what could have been a domestic option, such as Morvran pointed out the Badger has done nothing but be a waste of time, instead of one of multiple actual top tier IFV options the UK has we got the badger
I think it’s just a thing of acceptance, gaijin said subs will be added through out the year in which we had one already in the name of Switzerland no doubt more will come.
The problem we are having here is the old system of Air = air, ground = ground and that’s it gaijin doesn’t understand this sensitive situation about blocking or other players feelings towards other nations. They see it as “oh let’s add something here to fill that space”.
With nation tab subs can act like nations in there own right but without having a handicap of not having enough vehicles
at the very least its a domestic tank my issue is while gaijin says just because a sub tree tank comes doesnt mean it takes recourses away from the main nation but it inherently does the man hours they use to code and model say the badger could have been spent on something we actually need like say the Boxer CTA-40 or Ajax or Warrior CTA-40
It’s almost like using ST as nothing more than a way to replace domestic stuff(or not fix them) has only led to them being hated, even more so due to the limited room.
So, in STs current form there’ll never be in a simbotic relation between the nations, just every nation fighting for what limited room there is in a tree.
As i have said before SA was the first and only good sub tree gaijin ever added mostly because the vehicles were consistently unique across the board and not just 1-2 with the rest being copy and paste slop.
I cant wait for the swiss ground sub tree to be a bunch of a AMX-13s, Centurions, and leopard 2s with maybe the panzer 58 being the single unique domestic vehicle in the tech tree.
All other swiss panzer variants and MOWAG options will end up being event, premium or squadron vics. Its the same thing that played out with the Benelux,Finnish and Hungarian subtree…
I worded it poorly. I meant Id rather take a 12.0 MBT that we dont have yet (realistically we only have 11.3/11.7 MBTs) over another 10.3/10.7 MBT that we do already have quite a good MBT for (in fact we already have 3)
CR2BN is only 12.0 because it has APS and whether the 2E should be 12.0 is highly debatable.
The Challenger 3(P) is needed ASAP as gaijin clearly doesnt care about modeling the CR2s accurately
Oh yeah not denying that, honestly when it was first added as a subtree i was excited since the Olifant Mk.2 is one of my favorite centurion mods. But now? Honestly it should have been added as an independent half tree in the same way Israel was (and China honestly should have been)
I would say that Thailand was the one single acception since Japan is the one nation that is actually very limited on what vehicles could be added.
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Well I agree it should be it’s own TT, I’ll diffagree with the half-trees. even more so for nations the fought in WW2.
China should be a nation with a somewhat unique low tier, with the funnies they built. Everything points to there being options, Gaijin just didn’t make them.
And we do have low rank unique stuff for ZA.
I think the only WW2 nations getting their own tree and it being a half tree I’d be fine with is likely India.
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With the coming of rank VIII, we didnt get RP reduction of the vehicles at these br’s.
Are there any plans to introduce BR reductions in the near future, since the grind is getting very long and frustrating at these br’s.