I mean. Ive been shreading Bismark in said 7.7 and 8.0s. Its not just the 8.7s :D
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yeah its kinda crazy I was looking forward to finally trying out the AJ168s and its been such a let down
Tbh even 8.0s and 7.7s cut through her armor its nothing really all that special
(Didnt even see Morv’s response lol)
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Yep :')
The strength of Scharnhorst’s armor is achieved to the curved sloped deck.
Furthermore, Bismarck’s deck, apart from being flat and having fewer angles, is made of destructible segments; while Scharnhorsts’ deck is a single piece, non-destructible armor module.
I wish there was a way to make Bismarck a bit more… eventful. I wanted her, but she seems so outclassed that it feels like a waste of time to even grind for her.
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looses crew at a insane rate compared to other boats
Exactly why ive been saying Gneisenau is genuinely Germanys best ship and all it costs for anyone is $80
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Her 15s besides reload are also very disapointing I was expecting quite a bit more pen
Worth a try:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/5vlE0oUHGuk8
NA Naval servers feel like they are falling apart
I’m looking forward to it, sounds like a really interesting concept!
The Bismark IRL did have a system where if the turrets were hit, they were immediately flooded to prevent fires causing ammo detenations. A Mechanic we dont have in-game. Its entirely possible she was hit in the locations that normally cause ammo dets in game, but this IRL system prevented cook-off.
Also, the far more simplified damage models also doesnt help much either.
But IRL, Hood was sunk by a 1 in a million, super lucky shot by Bismark. That was likely the result of a combination of factors including the Hood executing an extremely tight turn, practically revealing her belly to the Bismark. But in game, she is almost never ammo det’ed. So using IRL examples, doesnt necessarily help much in game for these types of things
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In hindsight, I already know why Bismarck is so… mediocre ingame.
In real life, it took as much as 400 hits to destroy her because these were unable to penetrate the belt.
And they were unable to penetrate the belt… because they came from Rodney and King George V.
So they destroyed Bismarck by ruining the superstructure, taking down the turrets and causing floods, basically.
These guns were incapable of penetrating Bismarck’s citadel.
However, in War Thunder, Bismarck is regularly facing Yamatos, Iowas and Soyuzs- all of which penetrate 150 more mm than KGV or Rodney.
In real life, Bismarck would probably have been obliterated by 2 salvos from Iowa too.
So, at the end of the day… it’s a matter of compression, as always. Even 8.7 isn’t enough, apparently. Bismarck should only see the currently 8.7 ships in absolute full uptiers, if ever at all; yet she’s just 0.3 BR away from them. However, if Bismarck was lowered much more, she could be oppressive in full downtiers.
So… maybe we just need to expand the BRs to 9.0, placing Bismarck at 8.0, where Gneisenau should also be put as well. It makes no sense for Gneisenau to be a lower BR than Bismarck- it’s a sidegrade, trading 2 guns for actually extraordinary protection and survivability.
Uh… I’ve one shot Bismark in game with Rodney :D
Probably the new barbette/elevator fire mechanic? It feels like Battleships are dying like flies lately like that.
Barbette is hit, fire is started, and ammunition blows up before the fire division can even begin to shut it off.
Was fairly instant. So I think I just penned the magazine and blew it up. Can test it if you want
Then I guess nothing can save Bismarck xD
This just can’t be right. Her citadel wasn’t penetrated even once by KGV or Rodney at any range. Onlydamaging shells were the ones which hit the turrets, barbettes, superstructure and more lightly armored sections of the waterline.
I’ll skip, then. Thanks for the insight!
Now that the F-2 is here, I can go back to thinking about something else I’ve been hoping for, and that’s the missing turret basket for the Type 10 to be added: Community Bug Reporting System
It has been missing since release ;_;
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You want the Indonesia/Malaysian Hawk
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I’ll meet you halfway with the Malaysian Su-30MKM
I often beat Bismarcks with ease, using my Gneisenau. Just today I was in a fight against a Bismarck in my Gneis, I was also getting hammered by half the enemy team, but I beat the Bismarck in about 5 or 6 salvos at most. I survived the match and got a few more kills.
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Impressive you survived the match in Gne. They are usually free kills :P