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No, as it has JHMCS which was only on production model hornets in 2002. Super hornets were officially equipped in 2003 legacy hornets before 2000 have no confirmed use of the JHMCS so lets not try to claim that the US hornet is a late 90’s model.

If you’re gonna lie and claim that JHMCS was on US hornets in the 90’s at least actually learn when vehicles like the F16 and F15 first used JHMCS since they only began testing with JHMCS in 2000, F-18 only began testing after JHMCS proved to be useful to the F16 and F15 after successful integration tests.

JHMCS was a mid 90’s creation but it wasn’t on any mainstream US 4th gens before 2000 when they were tested to see how they would perform and if integration was possible.

Maybe not 90’s yes. But super hornet tested in 2000 and since this says it that D and F hornet/super hornets are both getting JHMCS for rear seats, there could be commonality between the 2 for HMD.

Also,
https://www.aftc.af.mil/News/On-This-Day-in-Test-History/Article-Display-Test-History/Article/2353056/october-20-1998-joint-helmet-mounted-cueing-system/

Again 2000, not late 90’s, don’t try to say it was a 90’s hornet especially when these are tests not production vehicles. What you’re doing is choosing specific information so that the US F/A-18C late doesn’t seem that new. Its you blatantly lying to try and underplay its age and what it does is discredit you when people call you out on it.

Yeah you are right about it being 2000 at earliest for the F/A-18C JHMCS.

I already said it too

See i know it cant be the 90’s because it was only in the early 2000’s that C models got the updated cockpit to have the HMD button on the console. Something that Gaijin who apparently always planned to be a mid 90’s F-18C got wrong as it has the mid 2000’s cockpit with the HMD dial because it was probably planned to be on par with the US before being changed. If accuracy was such a focus it wouldn’t have a cockpit it never used since MLU 1 has a unique cockpit from Patria.

@Smin1080p_WT considering our prior discussion why was the Finnish F-18 given the mid 2000’s US cockpit if the Fins only got the 1994 model? Also why do they have aim 9L despite not having it IRL? Any explanation for these historical inaccuracies would be appreciated so that it can be made actually historically accurate.

Finnish F-18 shouldn’t have a dial for turning HMD on and off if it was only added to US hornets in the 2000’s seems like the swedish air tree was again another last minute thought.

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By the way, thanks for arguing. I was looking for stuff to see if there was any earlier hornet HMD testing and I found something that might be able to go on F-15A (Agile Eye HMD)

I just have to figure out if it was an F-15A and not a C, since the tests were in 1986

Yes other HMD’s have been tested by the US. The phantoms have quite a few dozen different HMD systems that were integrated.

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Also sorry for the ping @Smin1080p_WT why does the Finnish Vampire have bombs? Bombs were removed from the Mig 21Bis because of the historical fact that Finland wasn’t allowed to have fighters with bombs from their treaty in the 40’s yet the Vampire has them? Logically speaking the Vampire should be removed from the game as it serves no purpose as the A28 exists and has historical rockets.

Additionally why do Finnish BF109’s have M50 on them? The Fins never opperated them with the M50 yet they have them in game?

If something is incorrect about the cockpit of the aircraft, please feel free to make a report. The F-18C is fully compatible with AIM-9L. So there is no issue there.

Turns out Agile Eye was on a C.

However the document does say something about 1553A compatibility. Will take this to F-15 thread

how can the sounds be still so f-cked up after 3 weeks since the patch, and at least 2 since first reports were filed, how long are we supposed to wait while the game is nigh unplayable since nothing is audible unless within 10 meter radius, usually too late to do anything

Compatible yes but considering bombs were removed from the Mig 21Bis because they had bombs but weren’t allowed to use them, it seems like a double standard to have 9L’s that they didn’t have nor use. The mig 21Bis shouldn’t have bombs they didn’t use and the 9L’s should be removed as they didn’t use them.

Feel free to make a report on any of these if you have information to show it. However ordinance is down to the devs discretion to choose so long as the aircraft was compatible and other versions of the aircraft are not planned (that spesifically did carry ground ordinace).

It was the devs who removed bombs from the Mig 21 for historical accuracy yet let the Vampire have them so it would have a place in the TT. Im just asking the purpose for the double standard.

Weaponry (such as missiles) is and always has been a balance decision.

So the Vampire can have weapons it couldn’t use for balance? Then why cant the Mig 21 have bombs for balance?

Just wanting to understand the strange double standards. It to me just seems like the entire subtree was a after thought filled with loopholes and double standards.

I was referring to the AIM-9Ls (missiles for balance). Not the Vampires bombs.

Once again, you can report the Vampire if you have information to suggest it should not have bombs.

My report would literally be the numerous treaties imposed on Finland which prohibit bombs like the moscow treaty.

Additionally why is a swedish J34 on the Finnish aviation line? I understand the A28 considering the snail foldered both vampires yet the J34 seems like gaijin added it there because the Finnish air tree was just too short.

J34 follows on from the A28 and Vampire best. J29F is already in the domestic Swedish jet fighter line at 9.0, so it fits better in this line.