They are very similar. Aged design, 120mm rifled guns, and just being questionable in every aspect lol.
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How so? It’s more German than British.
The reason Bhisma came to UK, coz it was easy implement from T-90A and in turn set the stage for Arjun in higher tier introduction in UK (but it’d require much more work, so hence in future).
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Also, what’s the point of getting a T-90S Bhishma but with weaker ammo?
They could’ve used the original export T-90 variant for it:
It was unique and India was the first and is sole user. The weaker ammo ceiling is justified here.
Or else the Ajeya CI. Also unique (T-72M1 brought to T-72AV standard + upgrades)
The weaker ammo ceiling is justified here as well.
The 120mm rifled guns are not same at all.
You cannot put a slow 7.0 jet at 8.7 just because it has awful missiles. Even without Sparrow I the -2/M would only be 7.3, maybe 7.7 at most.
I remember reading somewhere it was one of the aircraft that tested the Sparrow II or Sparrow III, that would make it fine at 8.7, where, don’t forget, it’ll be uptiered to see 9.7.
Arjun literally uses a modified L7 gun
Given how it is the second and last modern MBT which employs 120mm rifled guns, safe to say they are equally questionable. Sure India uses one-piece ammo and ATGM which is likely to be more advanced.
Yes, and wrote 120mm guns above. And its unique to its own or rather indigenous development, not shared with L11 or L30 as often written off. (i.e scaled up L7 to 120mm)
[ what I am saying is, if not Aussie M1, the Canadian Leos should’ve been under UK, except the turret all the other Leo 2 parts are already in the TT ]
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It being “more German” is what makes it more fitting. What the hell does Britain have to do with Soviet designs?
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It’s such a shame, it would be such a good and fun SPAA if it just had at least workable damage.
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nothing!
gib Cana Leo(s) instead.
(plus the 105mm version of Osorio)
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F-111C was given not because it was Commonwealth but because they were the only other operator of the F-111
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ok not gonna sidetrack here much with that
And, what does Britain have to do with India at all? It makes no technological or political sense and hardly any historical sense
The MiG-29UPG is basically a SMT, it wouldn’t be 12.7. They later on upgraded their UPGs to carry a Zhuk-ME (upgraded N010) radar and more advanced missiles.
India did operate MiG-29 9.12Bs tho, which would fit at 12.7
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Politics is not allowed here, so politics shouldn’t be a reason.
by political, I meant diplomatic relations which can definitely play a role
The C is class as unique variant there for it goes where needed, the US had 3 attackers in the same update. So gaijin thought it wasn’t needed for the US
Mate, I don’t support India being a subtree for Britain either.
I don’t want to see any of their Soviet stuff.
Their domestic stuff (Arjun, Marut, Rudra, Prachand, etc) and their imported British stuff (Sea Harrier, Jaguar, Gnat/Ajeet, Hunter, etc) is fine, but the Soviet stuff should either be added to the USSR tree or a standalone Indian tech tree (or a Israel subtree, I suppose lol)
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USA tech tree no heavy 3rd gen fighter aircraft 10.3 ~ 10.7 vietnam war era, fill gap between F4C & F-4E
And USN fighter aircraft 11.0 ~ 11.7 between F-8E & F-4J
Gajin forgot A-4M Skyhawk 4 years
F3D-2 at 7.0 or 7.3, but none Sparrow I missile
F3D-2M retain J34-WE-36 engine from F3D-2
But yes worse flight performance