all of which you named are premiums or event vehicles btw, a lot of US designs (the reason I use this is because not all of it was lend lease) are still missing from the british tree, we still dont even have an early mustang that was entirely unique to the UK, we are still missing the Tomahawks and Kittyhawks, We are still missing any of our US bombers like the Maryland or Baltimore.
I can understand not wanting lend lease vehicles in trees, but things like the ones I just mentioned, which weren’t supplied under lend lease, should come.
this also means I support things like the Mosquito and Spitfire going to the US
they dont get TT lend lease outside of the base truck some of their early AA are made on iirc, you get shermans and stuarts, and m10’s, and fireflies, all in tech tree
We have very few that were lend lease based.
a single sherman
m3 stuart
The lee/grant
firefly
allison powered mustang
a corsair
m44 cardinal
M10 17pdr Achilles
and ill count the Churchill NA75 as it uses a mantlet salvaged from sherman ii wrecks in north Africa
not even a dent in the kit we were loaned. we don’t even have the Chaffee or most importantly the M22 when we are the only ones to have actually used it in battles in ww2.
Tanks: The Soviet Union received more tanks than Britain from the specific list, with M4A2 Shermans being the major contribution.
Aircraft: The Soviet Union also received more aircraft overall (especially the P-39 Airacobra) than Britain. The Soviets received approximately 18,000 aircraft, including P-40s, P-47s, and B-25s. By comparison, Britain received fewer American aircraft in terms of total numbers, but key aircraft like the P-51 Mustang and Corsair were significant.
So, in terms of quantity of vehicles and aircraft from this list, the Soviet Union received more than Britain.
List
Aircraft
Catalina
Received by the USSR: The Soviet Union received Catalina flying boats from the United States. They were used for reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare. Around 400 were delivered to the USSR.
Hampden
Received by the USSR: Britain produced the Hampden, a British medium bomber. The Soviets did not receive this aircraft under Lend-Lease.
P-40
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union received the P-40 Warhawk. Approximately 2,000 P-40s were delivered to the USSR.
P-39K
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union received P-39 Airacobras, including the P-39K variant. The Soviets received around 9,000 P-39s in total.
A-20
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union received the A-20 Havoc bomber. Around 2,000 A-20s were delivered to the USSR.
P-39N
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union received the P-39N version of the P-39 Airacobra. The P-39 was one of the most numerous aircraft supplied to the USSR, with around 9,000 total.
P-39Q
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union received the P-39Q variant of the P-39 Airacobra, as part of the same series. The total number of P-39s delivered to the USSR was around 9,000.
P-63A
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union received the P-63 Kingcobra (including the P-63A model), which was used by the USSR in the later stages of the war. Over 2,000 P-63s were delivered to the Soviets.
P-47
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union received P-47 Thunderbolts. Around 2,000 P-47s were delivered to the USSR.
B-25
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union received the B-25 Mitchell bomber. Over 1,000 were delivered to the USSR for use in tactical bombing.
P-63C
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union received the P-63C Kingcobra, which was a later version of the P-63. Again, the Soviets received over 2,000 P-63s in total.
Spitfire Mk.IX
Received by the USSR: Yes, the Soviet Union did receive the Spitfire Mk.IX under Lend-Lease from the UK. Around 1,000 Spitfires were sent to the USSR, though these were a smaller proportion of the overall number produced.
Britain - Vehicles and Aircraft
Tanks
Sherman II
Received by Britain: Yes, the British Army received the Sherman II (M4 Sherman), primarily through Lend-Lease from the United States. Over 17,000 Shermans were provided to Britain, with the Sherman II being one of the most common variants.
Sherman Firefly
Received by Britain: Yes, Britain produced the Sherman Firefly, which was a modification of the M4 Sherman with a 17-pounder anti-tank gun. While it wasn’t delivered by Lend-Lease, it was a key part of British armored units in later years.
Achilles
Received by Britain: The Achilles was a British modification of the American M10 Wolverine tank destroyer. The British received a significant number of these through Lend-Lease. The Achilles was equipped with a 17-pounder gun, similar to the Sherman Firefly, and was used in large numbers.
Aircraft
Catalina Mk IIIa
Received by Britain: Yes, the Royal Air Force (RAF) and the Royal Navy received Catalina Mk IIIa flying boats from the United States. These were used for maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare. The British received several hundred of these planes.
Havoc Mk I
Received by Britain: Yes, the Havoc Mk I was a British version of the A-20 Havoc bomber, modified for British use. The British received a significant number of A-20 Havocs from the United States, primarily used for night bombing and ground attack.
Avenger Mk II
Received by Britain: Yes, the British received the Avenger Mk II, which was a version of the American TBF Avenger torpedo bomber. It was used by the Royal Navy and served in key naval battles during the war.
Hudson Mk V
Received by Britain: Yes, the Hudson Mk V was another American aircraft provided to the British, used for reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare. The British received several hundred of these planes.
Corsair F Mk II
Received by Britain: Yes, the British received the Corsair Mk II from the United States. The Corsair became a key aircraft in the Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm for carrier-based operations.
Martlet Mk IV
Received by Britain: Yes, the Martlet Mk IV was the British version of the American F4F Wildcat, which the British used in both the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force during the early stages of the war, especially for carrier-based operations.
Mustang Mk IA
Received by Britain: Yes, the British received the P-51 Mustang Mk IA fighter from the United States. The Mustang was crucial for long-range bomber escort missions and played a major role in the air superiority campaigns of the Allies.
Thunderbolt Mk I
Received by Britain: Yes, the P-47 Thunderbolt Mk I was used by the British, though they received fewer P-47s compared to the Soviet Union. The Thunderbolt was used by the Royal Air Force in ground-attack and fighter-bomber roles.
turns out those AA trucks werent lend lease, they were based off ford trucks but made in USSR, so there is in fact not one lend lease vehicle in the USSR tech tree
What you have shown is that Russia has 1 more lend lease than Britain, when IRL they received more lend lease and got it from two countries, and you neglected to mention that all Russian lend lease is premium
Also, nearly half or Russia’s lend lease is Air/Kingcobra
I wouldn’t count the Firefly as lend-lease being a modification as most think lend-lease = C&P.
But speaking of Sherman, I can connect it to my primary point(of missing primary used C&P but having ones they had in small numbers), as the UK is missing its primary Sherman, the Sherman V.
close enough to count. we were fully expecting to go to war with Russia as we were acquiring them
yes. but we are missing the other shermans we used. We don’t have a 105 or 76 sherman yet.
Russia doesn’t need the bolstering as much. and them getting the Royal Sovereign when there isn’t one in its native tree was a slap in the face so its a sore point for some of the brit mains here. I don’t agree with it either but it does show a good chunk of preference when it comes to notable vehicles
I’m not arguing you shouldn’t’, I’m saying you can’t complain that Russia gets preferential treatment on this when they clearly don’t, I’d actually argue Britain has better lend lease representation with them actually having TT lend lease, a fact you seem very keen to ignore
