Don’t know kind of want to try it to see if it does.
The whole “China stealing/copying other nation’s tech” reminded me of this.
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XB-47 when
Id imagine given how the ho229 just works the game should handle most flying wings
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The thing is they can question Will Roper. As no one is full proof, but considering the possibilities:
Spoiler
He’s fully telling the truth: It doesn’t mean inherently that the US is ahead as who knows when China secretly flew these planes (maybe 4 years ago as well) or if they did at all.
The other possibility in my opinion is (as I don’t think he’s lying)
He’s missing some context/twisting things slightly:
What would be his motivation for this? Well as Assistant Secretary of the Air Force he has a role in acquisition and probably is motivated to get the necessary funding for these programs.
For example the Zumwalt went quite a bit over budget and were they completely truthful in order to get the extra funding from congress? I doubt it.
Or say the Ajax programme (I knows it’s UK but hear me out) we can see this happening currently where it’s getting good press about recent trial performance. Yet it probably needs a bit more funding and definitely more time before it enters production.
This could seem more likely as NGAD is a complex programme that needs steady and significant funding. And with the end result far out in the future it will make some in congress sceptical. All 6th gen’s face this issue on some level see Tempest, maybe the US are effected less.
TLDR: The statement doesn’t mean anything, nor do the videos suggest that China are near any milestone in development; the prototypes could be barebones for all we know. But the videos do gives much more info of what 6th gen could look like for China then any statement and hence are far more interesting.
it’s not that easy to steal tech through these kind of way. like ICE_Coffee said. it’s because Raytheon and Lockheed Martin contract some of the parts to Chinese factorys, which may cause information leakage, and China may analysis the information to know some of the performance and find ways to against it easily, or mix in some spy/bad parts, and clearly this is not wanted.
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Not even that, the pure confirmation that China does indeed (besides the models shown at Zhuhai every two years) have a 6th gen program is good enough for me.
I agree with that point of funding motivation. I mean US military going over budget is actually expected by congress at this point. Just look at the amount of enquiries done towards US military on their budgets in congress these last few years. I think they really have to show a bit more ‘progress’ even if it means a bit of info leaked on their potential progress for the funds.
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Please no… especially after that interesting 2025 decal showcasing the F/A-18 Hornet and the Su-30, that’s 100% a hint
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It’s not even for sure that they will be in the March patch, they could be saving the F/A-18 and SU-30 for June
Su-30MKK is also outdated already since it have same radar as Su-27/27SM/J-11/J-11A
So it would be very similar to these jets and weak if face of even current 13.7-14.0
While China have ist’s own version - J-16
Only viable Su-30 versions today is Su-30SM, Su-30MKI, Su-30SM2. Everything else is outdated and underperforming.
Too long to wait.
No Su-30SM and F/A-18E next spring = no money fopr Gaijin. Simple.
Again, the SU-30MKK would be a huge upgrade for Chinese CAS, that’s why I suggested putting it in the attacker line under the JH-7A, not everything needs to be a meta changing A2A platform to be a valuable addition.
I also suggested that China would get a J-11B soon (March or June) which would be a great upgrade to 14.0 at least.
Not what past updates tell us, usually the really big, money making, hyped up updates are in December and June, that is when we got Danger Zone, Apex Predators, Air Superiority, Seek & Destroy, and now Storm Warning; there is actually a very good chance we do have to wait till June for the SU-30 and F/A-18, it is also possible it comes in March but I wouldn’t expect it.
Also, the leak was for a legacy Hornet, not a Super Hornet
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Yeah, I never said it was coming in march
new chest is finally here
It felt implied given what you were responding to, but my bad
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It’s fine, but yeah I’m expecting both of them for the June update since Top Gun update tradition lol
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Still waiting for more F-15JM skins come on gaijin
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Not much, and why then not give J-16?
Still waiting for a particulary N1K2 skin to come : /
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Probably march, although I do doubt it will be that good of a 14.0, 6 PL12 is less competitive than 6 AMRAAM anyways, similar radar to F15C, worse top speed and less CM count is probably what halts it. I mean it is far too modern to be CM reliant but yeah, at least good to have first true sino flanker.
True, I guess, at least Su27SM level CAS and maybe even slightly better A2A with ability to carry PL12. Although ever since J11A addition, we have not finished dispute over the radar carried on that, N001V VE or VEP.
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I could see it being ether really good or kind of mediocre, like PL-12s are an upgrade over the R-77 and if they add PL-8Bs then you end up with a loadout of 4 longer range IR missiles as well as 6 AMRAAM-lite missiles, depending on things like engines, radar, and CMs I could definitely see it being 14.0 worthy, I can also see them giving the earlier, weaker engine, as well as just regular PL-8s and in that case it’s just about 13.7.