Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Woah when did they do that?

Looks like it was 3 months after an F-22 followed a Falcon 9

July 9th, 2024

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I really hope they come soon, and with some sort of decompression of the 9.X BR range. Right now any uptier makes your plane utterly useless unless you have flares. You have F-104s 0.3 higher than F-86s, but those same F-104s are obsolete against anything above 9.7.

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Honestly same with ground also, the 8.x though 9.x is filled with questionable BR choices for many vehicles or vehicles needing buffs because they shouldn’t move down.

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Naval decompression would be nice too, starting from 3.7-4.7, so I don’t see Frank Knox in Alano boat…

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I’ve been doing some thinking about those nations coming to WTM.

Recently they announced they would be adding new nations to their version of the game.

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Now suddenly out of nowhere they got a new datamine containing South Korean flags in which if you have noticed both War thunder nor Mobile has got South Korean tech. So with that in mind we could savely say South Korea could be one of these hinted nations.

But what does this have to do with War thunder I hear you scream.

Well in the recent Dev’s Covert Disclosures we got told new nations for our side of war thunder are taking a back sit. Which we kinda already knew about but what has also been quoted in their are hint for more sub nations for 2025.

“Q: War Thunder is constantly expanding with new vehicles from other nations, which are implemented into nations already in the game. But are there any plans for separate standalone nations in the future in addition to the 10 already present in the game?
A: Yes, we have plans for separate new nations. But next year, we’ll focus on filling the gaps in existing trees, including adding subtrees of other nations to them, and adding new types of vehicles.”

So with this information we could make the suggestion that South Korea could be one of those planned sub nations. As in our version of the game South Korea isn’t big enough to hold it’s own nation up.

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It’s possible, however given that they specified gap filling, I’m more inclined to believe that the new sub nations will be for China (Pakistan) and Israel (Singapore or Chile and/or Argentina) due to them being the only nations without five lines.

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I believe these would also be added this year too, remember we had Hungarian air, Benelux air & India announcement, work on Benelux ground and then Thailand air. So in total we had about 3 total new subs added.

So with South Korea, Pakistan and Israeli rework with a sub could totally be possible.

Funny how they take about filling holes then take away something that a nation can’t survive without lol.

I think their focus this year is going to be making 5 full lines for ground and air for each in-game nation with a help of subtrees, so probably: Thailand ground forces for Japan, some new subtree for filling Chinese ground and air, new air line for Sweden (Norway and Denmark?), WW2 part of Hungarian line (hopefully with Romanian planes as well) for Italy, maybe smth for Israel as well, though this is kinda specific nation, considering it starts from rank IV (idk if they plan a subtree for it or not).

If you’re in an F-15/EFT, yes. Rafale can kind of do it, but it’s speed (altitude) + AIM-120, otherwise, you have to go rat mode and wait for the SPAMRAAM brainlets to die before you get to do anything.

You can occasionally slap someone who’s not paying attention with a R-77/PL-12 within about 20km, but that’s not always a guarantee.

  1. BARS is not really an 80’s radar. At best a single non-M N011 existed for testing, and it didn’t even get testing until the 90’s. Production of the BARS didn’t begin until the early 2000’s. It’s a good, not great radar.

  2. TVC will be great for the Flankers. If you’re playing like a rat to begin with, having more alpha in your turn, and a better turn speed at lower speeds will help you against Gripens and F-16’s.

  3. R-77 is what’s holding back Russia right now, and it’s not even the worst ARH in the game. R-77M or R-77-1 whatever people want to call it, is what’s needed if Gaijin doesn’t address the game engine’s issues with the drag modelling.

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They are different missiles.

Idk what to say about the ones you’ve listed baring China and Israel. But I do believe there could be a massive rework to Israel since they no longer have starter premiums.

i think Chile could come for Israel, idk who else would really make sense

Columbia maybe ?

maybe both, who knows

The N011M BARS is a PESA radar…it’s going to be night and day better then the current 27SM radar! Way faster to refresh contacts and see targets at range.

TVC will be very good when you make it to the end of the match and it comes down to small number of players. People who try to use it at the start of a match and run right into the furball of course will get smoked…they are using it wrong.

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It’s possible missiles will get their distinctive engine burner effects too. Some improvements have already been made to the overall effects. But individual colours and effects remain possible.

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A 2-step matchmaker only removes the extremes of balance, it can’t create issues that aren’t already there, any perceived issues you think it creates are issues already present.

Now yes it does limit further decompression somewhat, however Gaijin have shown that they don’t want to decompress as much as we want, their idea of balance still involves full uptiers fighting vehicles you stand no chance against, and this isn’t just at top tier, this runs throughout the whole tree.

A 2 step matchmaker has a similar effect to full tree decompression to BR 20, only with less granularity, and a much smaller effect on the matchmaker.

Yeah decompression is better, but that also requires significantly more work to pull off

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Cant wait for south America TT, with Brazil, Argentina (not a sub-tt for Germany, confirmed), Uruguay, Paraguay, etc…

Although, a combined African arms TT would also be nice!
Botswana, Namibia, Djibouti, Somalia, Morocco, Western Sahara, Algeria, Tsjaad, Mauritia, Nigeria, Niger, Ivorycoast, Ghana, etc…

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