why is it trash for players, it was either have it or don’t, with the decision having no bearing on other vehicles being added?
Trash in the sense of “nation main” players. having the exact same vehicle (of slight variants) of one vehicle in several trees means there’s less uniqueness to a WT nation, there’s no reason to play one over the other if it all is the same. My main opposition to it is because if I wanted to play USSR vehicles id be playing the USSR tree, not britain or any other nation but USSR
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See now that is just a matter of opinion, for most players more variety within a tree is better as it means they don’t have to spend ridiculous amounts of time grinding every single tree for the vehicles they want to play.
The people on the forum are the war thunder junkies who have the time to grind multiple trees, but that isn’t most people. Tree uniqueness is really only good for 5% of players with everything they want already unlocked, it’s gatekeeping behavior really
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You realise you have changed the argument from
copy paste delaying domestic vehicles to
copy paste reducing uniqueness of trees.
And contrary to your belief there are people (not me btw) that want those vehicles in the UK tree. Its how we ended in this situation to begin with the OSA.
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The uniqueness of the british tree is why I picked to play the tree when I first started playing WT two years ago. I don’t want that reason to choose one nation to be meaningless to new players
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this you btw?
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It sounds more like you don’t want it to have been meaningless to you
also, that is funny a hell
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those were two separate points.
Gaijin laziness delaying domestic choices because copy paste is the cheap substitute.
it also dilutes tree uniqueness
I opposed its addition, I oppose India as a subtree of Britain in the first place, especially as we arent even seeing the unique indian stuff, only copy pastes of preexisting tanks in game.
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does a /s need to be used everywhere on the internet now? damn
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now that I’ve played for a long time it doesn’t matter as much as I’ve played a bit of what I care for across the board, I just don’t think that choice should be worthless to those that started after me, seems unfair to them
Have you seen the mess the last patch was, it’s obvious they’re putting as much into the game every patch as they can, even when it isn’t quite finished, and then fixing the bugs in the interim.
Now I don’t always agree with Gaijins decisions but the reason they haven’t added unique stuff seems to be because they want to push top tier as high as they can, every new patch recently has been pushing top tier air up, and when they’re finally satisfied with that then they will go and back fill, and that is when we will see the more unique vehicles added
but the OSA which is why this argument started proves this is just not the case. It was quick and effortless hence didn’t delay anything.
Well its happened and is unlikely to change. People also argue against an Indian nation tree due to an Israel esque situation which increases copy paste even more.
This has been talked to death many times but is this applicable to current conversation when the OSA was pretty popularly requested?
We back to this huh?
Anyway, Jaguar Darin III with ASRAAM and ASEA to lighten the mood (and a cockpit shot I found)
Damn those top rails are ugly
Aint no way they are adding ASRAAMs anytime soon
you take that back
They’re already in game on the GR1A
also could be worse the Lightnings had overwing ferry tanks
I know they are; it’s the reason I won’t use the British Jaguar, seeing it just makes me uncomfortable
Sucks to be you :shrug: laughs in two A2A missiles and Phimat
Eh, I could see it in a limited capacity on something like a Jaguar or Harrier with a nerfed IRCCM, it’s a 50G in optimum conditions missile, it’s gimmick is range more than anything. Akin to R-24T and such more than anything.
yeah, IRCCM on missiles like the AIM-9X, ASRAAM, Python 5, R-74, IRIS-T, MICA IR, and PL-10 will have to be nerfed as having accurate IRCCM on those missiles will be hell, so some of them may be closer than you think, particularly the 90s ones.
Looking at the data mined Python 4 as well as the Stinger, they use suspension plus gate width IRCCM instead of their real life IRCCM, so that is likely a sign of what to expect at least early on
They have also shown that they have no issue nerfing seekers to add missiles early as we saw with the Magic 2
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