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Have you (or anyone else) got a good source on the capabilities of the AAM-3 and Python 4?

I’m still confident Python 4 wouldn’t be that much of a leap, as people have pointed out things like BTT and dual-wave IR homing are not implemented

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I know theres an AAM-3 perf thread not sure about Python 4 though

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imagine if they made a guided tiny tim with a proxy fuse

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Gaijin will nerf IRCCM capability 100%. PL-5EII in real life is supposed to have an IRCCM similar to MANPADS/TY-90 but ingame it only has gatewidth like R-73 and Magic II. I suspect Python 4 will be the same.

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No Python missile models have ever used thrust vectoring.

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Realistically though, the Python 4 comes in at a really weird spot performance wise where it is head and shoulders above other Gen 4 missiles, but falls short of Gen 5.

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Python 4 will be like AAM-3 and get AIM-9M seeker likely

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and also it happened with the AAM-3 when was added long time ago, in reality it should have a more advance IRCCM soo… i dont see any problem with the Python-4 having the same destiny, also we can expect the fifth generations ones not being what they are IRL too.

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Memory IRCCM works better with missiles like Python 4 that are extremely fast off the rail.

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And yes, I think that even something like IRIS-T won’t be too difficult to flare for game balance.

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So not a leap then. Just a hop.

No biggie :)

If it goes like the AAM-3, the Python 4 will be nerfed on arrival, then power-creeped, then Gaijin will forget to buff it later lmao

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AAM-3 should be Mach 3-3.5

But ofc gaijin just made it a glorified 9M copy

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At the very least, I have documentation that shows the performance of the AAM-3 has been toned down in-game for balance purposes. As you said, there likely isn’t much of a difference between the Python 4 and the AAM-3.

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Flares.

That I did not know, thank you for clearing it up as i assumed it was the same as 9M

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I already knew it was nerfed, but I’d be interested to see the specifics, for sure

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It’s also worth noting AIM-9L, AIM-9M, Magic-II and R-73 are all underperforming their IRL IRCCM capabilities as well.

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Python-4 and Python-5 does not have Thrust Vectoring capabilities mate, the Python-4 makes use of carefully designed aerodynamics that give the missile a large amount of lift in all profiles of flight. A cruciform fixed canard is mounted on the nose to stabilize high angle of attack airflow over the cruciform canard control surfaces, which are used for pitch and yaw control, a technique used by a number of existing WVR AAMs. Rolling is achieved through paddle vanes behind the control surfaces, and the swept tail surfaces are designed to swivel about the fuselage to reduce lift-induced rolling during high-alpha turning, it have a unique engagement pattern the missile does not go into a ‘pure pursuit’ mode while chasing a turning target, but instead goes wide (lag pursuit) of the target’s turn and pulls into the target at the end of the turn, when the missile has the energy but the target is sapped. again this is what i said above: More pull = more energy bleeding = less effective range. and also some people are not taking in count the speed of the target that it passed by soo… be carefull with this factor because it means a lot for the missile to hit.

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Right now Python 4 in the game files has both FOV shrinking and Seeker shut off IRCCM

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Hopefully when they add Python 4 they fix soke of the AAMs quirks

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