yeah the Python-4 is fine for it it would bring something new but not extremely insane.
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In my opinion, the early domestic PLANAF 4th generation fighter aircraft gaijin could add J-11BH (J-11B Blk 2) before J-15
like you try and evade the other missiles my friend or do you think that is a type of black magic? XD
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Since WT players are demanding more and more modern stuff, AAMs with IRCCM are simply unavoidable.
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Simply Python 4 is not just flare and turn whilst flaring or force the seeker to see the flare
It is near impossible if not impossible to beat with flares
As we stand we can dodge IR missiles given distance and knowledge of its existence
But Python 4, asraam, aim 9x and the likes of these take a lot lot more than flares and fancy flying, most of which isnt in game
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You’re not wrong, but players will simply have to adapt. This is the consequence as we move further into the 21st century. Hopefully players will stop getting into furballs at top tier lol
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not sure there is an adapting, its essentially a guaranteed kill assuming it wasnt taken by someone else, your best hope is to use terrain
Python 4 and AAM-3 are VERY similar missles. It wouldnt be much if any better, besides without BTT much like the AAM-3 it wont pull its 50Gs only 40 or so
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Furballs are inevitable in top tier so long as the matches are 10 v 10 or more. All that changes is where the furball happens.
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My point exactly. I 100% prefer using terrain, anyway.
However, for planes that have these sorts of missiles, remember that they will have a high BR. You’ll still be able to play battles without such missiles at a lower BR
Python 4 will hit a target on the aircrafts tail, Python 4 will look at your flares and instead of turning off the seeker like AAM 3 it will just say Nuh uh and track the aircraft anyway because it can differentiate between flares and aircraft
Python 4 will pull around 60Gs in single plane
Python 4 will not miss… unless its modelled poorly
When it entered service in the mid 90s it was just the best IR guided missile
Python 4 is non thrust vectoring youre thinking of Python 5.
That is Python-5, Python-4 is just mix of both current IRCCM methods in-game, more than capable of being defeated currently.
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Even still like I said Bank To Turn isnt modeled so it wont do that and the AAM-3 has the SAME UV IRCCM as Python 4
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The seeker of the AAM-3, historically, uses dual-wavelength infrared homing (IR/UVH), allowing it to distinguish between flares and aircraft, similar to the Python 4. However, dual-wavelength infrared homing is not implemented in War Thunder. As a result, the Python 4 will likely be implemented without its flare discrimination capability as well.
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Realisticly we couldve gotten Python 4 and AAM-3 at the same time
And afaik they should both basically perform the same
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It’s also worth pointing out that it would only be capable of doing this in-game because the devs have not modelled volumetric countermeasures which would already exist on aircraft with BOL in-game. Volumetric countermeasures are likely capable of degrading performance of even IIR systems.
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First of all the Python-4 seeker would underperform at distances it would be strong at closer ranges, second its not a 60G missile is a 50G (single-plane) missile without TVC and also have a lot of drag in it because of the multiple control surfaces this means more pull = more energy bleeding = less effective range, this missile is not perfect some people mistify it and its wrong, you said Python-4 will not miss what am going to say to you is that the IAF declared long time ago that some of the fired Python-4 missed targets or got fooled, what we see in paper seems to be perfect for us, but in reality nothing is perfect at the end of the day this things are made by humans and if the humans sometimes fails in something you can imagine what could happen with things developed by humans, also you said: “when it entered in service in the mid 90s was the best IR missile” yes it was the Best 4 generation missile by that time and the second one was the AAM-3 that entered in service in 1992 the AAM-3 and the Python-4 technological speaking shares a lot. its what it is mate at some point it needs to come before the fifth generation ones: 9X, IRIS-T, ASRAAM, MICA-IR, PL-10, A-DARTER, Python-5. you cant go against the progression, the progression is needed to open more doors for more things.
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Have you (or anyone else) got a good source on the capabilities of the AAM-3 and Python 4?
I’m still confident Python 4 wouldn’t be that much of a leap, as people have pointed out things like BTT and dual-wave IR homing are not implemented
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