Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

The Aussie one where built in licensed in Australia.

The CF-188 is 100% C&P. Canada didn’t build any of them just a few parts. The only things done completely in Canada was the upgrades but that the same with the Aussies.

Please snail gods give britain a 7.7 spaa dear god do we need it, we don’t need another 10.0 spaa

true but the first 2 were from US, and the rest were literally blueprint copies of US, i think cf-18 had some minor changes but aussie ones were identical iirc

honestly the US might get both, as long as we get austrlian one to play with asraam i am happy.

It’s just the regular 9K31 Strela-1 system on a different chassis, the Romanians call it the A-95

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The minor changes are a spotlight(not applicable to WT) and False canopy(livery stuff adopted by everyone else)

WT wise, the CF-188 is C&P, hence we can only see it in the UK tree as the US has the same plane in like 20 variants the USAF used(so they have no need for it)

Tejas Mk 1 Early

Russian equipments but before Super Sukhoi upgraded

The early rank 8 before south african JAS39 Gripen C (increase BR to 14.0, IRIS-T instead AIM-9L and removed R-Darter)

After Harrier GR.7 and Harrier GR.9A ? I’m not sure

Equipped Litening III targeting pod from Tornado GR.4

Add RVV-AE on MiG-21 Bison and increase battle rating to 13.0, right ?

https://wiki.warthunder.com/MiG-21_Bison_(Great_Britain)

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Is there any leak list for the December update been posted ???

Nope not yet

I thought there was one regarding the potential sub nation / new techtree ??

Where ?

ik, I’m just pointing out two things: 1) the double standard. China is a “single nation”, as much as, for example, Latam is. It’s the same case. 2) I love seeing new nations, but the way they are added has been so neglected that the game has completely lost the sense and identity of those nations in the real context.

I mean, I would have preferred them to add pages or tabs for subtrees. Or just add X nation’s tech without restrictions or limitations to a single TT, allowing to create interchangeable lineups. They need to stop with the double standard: each nation has its own TT to create national lineups, right? What about British/Indian/South African lineups? or Taiwanese/PLA lineups? If we are going to have those “unreal” lineups, why not remove the “national TT” restriction and allow to create interchangeable lineups? and just trade skins… it’s absurd. Hey, realism to say that UK can’t have a Canadian leopard or that Germany doesn’t have enough domestic fighter options. And where is that realism if the MM is a disaster, with Indians and Pakistanis fighting together or Taiwanese and Chinese against Americans…

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Yep that would be the 4th gen Tejas. PESA radar and such

Not really. Su30MKI even its non Super form could fire Astras and MICA missiles, not to mention integration with a metric ton of A2G weapons

Mig29UPG in its base form doesnt add much. However, it has been upgraded

Yep thats about it

UK can’t get an Ausie Abrams because the Abrams is American. UK can’t get a Canadian Leopard because the Leopard is German. But UK can get an Indian T-90, of Soviet origin, wtf.
That sounds ridiculous man. Meanwhile Germany can’t get aircrafts because, irl, they didn’t have them. Israel won’t get light vehicles either because that’s their damn military doctrine. It’s ridiculous.

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Mirage 2000H, Mirage 2000i, MiG-27ML, Ajeet, Sea Harrier FRS.51, MiG-27UPG, Sea Harrier FRS.51, Sea Harrier FRS.51 LUSH, Hunter Mk 56 and Marut Mk.1 & Mk.1A

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India has clearly been stated as a UK subtree(by Gaijin as well as Smin several times). Australia and Canada haven’t been clubbed with any nation like that to my knowledge. I hope the future for Australian and Canadian vics gets resolved

Oh right I completely forgot about the Mirages.
Also the Rafale, the one with the HMS and integration with indian weapon systems

dont see an issue with the last 2 points, and if anything the ICE is good now that its only 13.0, and theyll get typhoons.

and it makes sense for doctrine to be reflected in the tree, its why japan doesnt have any domestic ww2 heavies

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Their status is follows I think, If the UK is in need of an aircraft in a specific role while a cancelled or scrapped aircraft can fill a Commonwealth equivalent to that will be added.

It’s unfair that a Canadian player can’t make Canadian lineups and an Indian one can. Even more unfair is that the excuse used to deny one is the same excuse used to justify the other. Let’s accept that they are destroying the MM even more for the sole purpose of making more money. In the long term the game will end up losing all its charm. The vehicles are very nice, but the roleplaying and realism are on the verge of extinction. Why can’t I put Soviet decals on British vehicles if they later add Soviet vehicles to the British TT? Again, it’s ridiculous. The best option, in the current context, is to remove restrictions between tech trees and allow the creation of interchangeable lineups. At least I could put together a Canadian lineup (even if I have to grind 5 different TTs to get it).

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I see Canadian CFF-18 going to Germany and the US receiving the OZ F/A-18 as a premium and the F/A-18C as the tech tree version