Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

[Deathmisser]

@Mytho-GR1

unless new nation

AY upppppp did I hear a noise

[dotSHINI]

bonk

[dotSHINI]

Everyone hide! Smins here

[Deathmisser]

*Pretends to watch a ytp

[Nike Ajax]

smin1080p are you active on the forum outside of your work schedule?

[Dragon_Storm_246]

any news on if AMRAAMs r gonna be added or not?

[dotSHINI]

grippen c has been denied for this aptch, that ones is getting the role for amraams so propably not this patch

Besides that Smin answer, wait and see for next weeks news

[Dragon_Storm_246]

the A can get AMRAAMs

[dotSHINI]

it wont because gajin wants it to stay at that br, else the C would have no reason to be added at all

[Dragon_Storm_246]

sadge

[Dragon_Storm_246]

maybe Gaijin will add them on the Viggen D before adding them to a more powerful platform.

[GeorgeCarlin305]

threw my two cents in for match making but got the tanks i want off to custom battles til i get bored

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Abaddon75

M1A1 Click-Bait - War Thunder Wiki

that prem has better armor and better round than Leclerc, while being a tad lower in br. Their reload rate and mobility are quite close, plus Leclerc have no linup aside from some prem and and 3 versions of itself. First I don’t see why Leclerc are at a higher br in comparison to this, and Second how that thing that is much better than Leclerc is not considered as a top tier premium.

The Leclercs are 11.7 BR. As we have already said, we wont be introducing a premium on the maximum available current BR at any given moment. So one on 11.7 is not possible.

The M1A1 and its counterparts like the Challenger 2 OES are 11.3. Not 11.7.

@Abaddon75

For the line up issue, several options of vehicles exist for 11.0+ when it comes to light fighting vehicle, for example VBCI variants with ATGM like the Philoctete, VEXTRA 120 FER (VEXTRA 105 could be an other option for 9.3/7), EBRC with MMPs f&f atgm, just to name a few.

We were not just referring specifically to high BR light vehicles here. We are aware of many candidates for the future of the French tree and as we mentioned, are working to fill gaps within it across the board for line-ups.

@Abaddon75

As for the br range of Leclerc already ingame, Gaijin should consider doing some modifications on the their protection. I heard mods admited Devs used pre-production armor from the Swedish trial for S1, and concidred every following leclerc to have the same armor even though there isseveral sources claiming there was an upgrade of it for mass produced on and later on too. Also please stop asking for proper source, we won’t have any access to real data before 70+ more year since the modernisation program XLR just restarted the count down on those, I think Gaijin mods should stop asking us primary sources about those specific parts as any sources about it that include precise numbers, are just either fans estimation or straight up illegal, all we are left with are educated guess.

All modern tanks have their armour based on the material that is available. Anyone is welcome to submit reports that will be considered as suggestions provided they meet the criteria: [Development] Reports concerning the protection of post-war combat vehicles - News - War Thunder

Nobody is asking for Primary sources. We are aware they are not possible to provide in most cases, and wont accept any that are not legally declassified and publicly available. The article linked above outlines what is accepted.

There are several sources that provide insight to the Leclerc’s protection. The Swedish and British trials are some. But this does not rule out the possibility of others being submitted for further consideration.

@Abaddon75

Sorry didn’t want it to looks like a wish list or anything just wanted to answer you on that specific topic because Devs answers seems quite obscure to me, and make me wonder what are the knowledge of smaller nations that don’t have easy to acces informations and no dedicated consultant. Cheers and have a nice weekend.

No worries, I hope this clarifies further, but lets please try to keep this topic on subject. Have a good one too.

[Deathmisser]

Ah pew no telling off for the new nation talk hehe

/s

[Motherhen357]

@Dragon_Storm_246

maybe Gaijin will add them on the Viggen D

That 's even less likely than the Gripen A getting AMRAAM, the BR gap currently filled by the Viggen D is much larger.

[DirectSupport]

They could add it to Gripen A, then do AIM-120C with AIM-9M on Gripen C, and Gripen E/NG getting IRIS-T and Meteors.

[dotSHINI]

@Smin1080p

Nobody is asking for Primary sources. We are aware they are not possible to provide in most cases

i am still salty you (gajin) take 30year old swedish armor test sources over way more newer secondary sources which are more accurate, those swedish trials cant be used for the newest tanks anymore realy

[soviet_MoonMan]

Uhh, only thaing I can think of is that the orange guy said that the Hungarian air line will end with the Mig-29,

Besides that, I don’t think anything new was leaked

[WaretaGarasu]

Swedish Engineering and Metal is just superior mate

[fergui3101]

@Smin1080p

I heard mods admited Devs used pre-production armor from the Swedish trial for S1, and concidred every following leclerc to have the same armor even though there isseveral sources claiming there was an upgrade of it for mass produced on and later on too.

Could we have an official response about that too please? Because this is the main issue with the Leclerc. How do you think the Germans mains would react if their Leo2A7 had the same armor value as the Leo2A4?
So now outdated sources are more useful for Gaijin than actual sources and common sense?

So the question is how the Swedish trials can be considered as sources for the Leclerc (except for the prototypes and the first tranches maybe) ?
Thanks for the answer