Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Imo, it’s only fair. The Su-25 kinda sucks flying out beyond about 10.0. These measures would help assess if certain concepts, ECM or IRCM, help with survivability in a significant manor, and if they warrant BR increase.

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Well yeah, but having IRCM on a plane is a different matter than on a Heli. Helis don’t benefit nearly as much from the IRCM as planes

I actually like the subtree concept, though I do think it’s silly that something like the SA Gripen was out of the ordinary, since this makes a lot of sense to me, considering SA was already a British subnation. Similarly, I found it weird there was no Hungarian Gripen for Italy, despite the low effort, though this was likely to prepare for a whole dedicated line added later.

I feel like it’s nice to have a sub nation assigned to a single subtree, and even have a dedicated line if the space is there for it.
As far as additions go, I don’t feel like any subtree so far has hindered those of their host nations. But I do think that Gaijin needs to set priorities based on gameplay relevant addtions, community wishes and obviously representing all nations present in the tree.

This should ideally not negatively affect the host nation in any noticable way, as the subnation generally has less possible additions anyways, as well as still being the focus of a majority of the tree.

Also there is the type of “subnation” (probably unofficial) like Norway, that I personally think is nice for subnations with specifically few unique or tech tree worthy additions. Like a form of symbiotic relationship a nation gains premiums (possibly event vehicles?), while also reserving more of its own vehicles for the tree.

Though generally I’d have preferred subtrees to be treated more as seperate nations, with seperate tabs, that just have the unique ability to share lineups with another nation. But the way they were implemented still has its potential.

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When the AMRAAM version comes

How?

I may be biased to this one but think Sweden will get the:
Terrängbil m/42 “The Coffin
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Ammunition can pen 20mm at 90 degrees at 10m… But it would be more neat as a Tier 1 SPAA.

If this was actually added before the Lvkv m/43 or Tridon i will be beyond than confused. will still be happy though XD

I can use it as a speedy bulletproof cap vehicle

(this is a joke)

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I hope we will be seeing some cigars, or even gardening tools, this update.

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Or the prototype with a 20mm can be added:
Volvo KP-Bil with 20mm Akan (VKP “Special”)
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Funfact:
One of the longest Swedish words is.

“Nordvästersjökustartilleriflygspaningssimulatoranläggningsmaterielunderhållsuppföljningssystemdiskussionsinläggsförberedelsearbeten.”

This mouthful translates to “Preparatory work for the discussion of the maintenance follow-up system for the equipment of the North Western Sea Coast Artillery Air Surveillance Simulator Facility” in English.

Well, Helis are very easy to hit. Their IRCM is redundant most of the time, since gun SPAA and radar SAMs will still just slap them out of the sky. The only threat that IRCM helps against is heli/plane launched non-IRCCM AAMs (and the Chaparrals I guess)

Planes face regular old AAMs on a regular basis and (at least pre 11.7) most of them actually will struggle to hit a target with active IRCM

In other words, same protection, but helis don’t get into nearly as many encounters in which the IRCM actually is gonna help against the threat

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Agreed me in my Lvrbv 701 or ASRAD say hello to most planes. Things are an very effective to the average CAS player

And helicopters well they dont know what hit em until its too late

Now i wish all of you people a good night from sweden.

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Discord. Rumors are never “reliable sources”.

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We do have a trusted leaker/messenger

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Other than everything so far being right?

And also being right before

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How can i know that said person exists and is actually right? A forum user could easily say that this “discord user” was right on everything, especially if this is his made up troll. Its a claim, not evidence.

Indeed.

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Right so 4 things right is being a troll ?

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The fact that the list was made before devblogs, and that four of the vehicles so far are right, perhaps?

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