nothing new the fox-3 we have can do that aswell XD i mean liquid we need to take in count many things for that to happen its not the same thing a Python-4 being launched at a enemy that is going 800km/h than a Python-4 being launched at an enemy that is going a 1350-1400km/h the maximun range in this case would be less because the missile needs to pull more, faster and travel more we can traduce this as: less energy, less range, lower oportunity to hit, also practically most of the time in a normal match the 180° gimmick is not happening i actually cant remember the last time i launched at missile at his max offboresight capability XD.
flight performance is same. sure a2g performance is better, but the a2a performance only changes in AIM-9M
I’ll brb i’m going to make something to explain my idea better. :)
If we didn’t have multiple Tornados that perform exactly the same in ARB while having different BRs I would agree with you, but there are cases of A2G performance having an impact on ARB BRs, so for the A-10C this most likely is the case as well.
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Plus, IR and laser guided A2G weapons can be used against planes to some degree, but I don’t know how much of a factor that is for Gaijin
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The Tornado GR.1 also has worse engines than the other strike Tornados, but still gets a higher ARB BR than those without guided A2G
The Python 4 great maneuvrability close to medium range combat, but similar to AIM-9X (Block 1) & R-74M
But F-5T Tigris from Royal Thai Air Force carries 2 Python 4 max only
J-10B, J-11B/J-11BH, J-15, JH-7A2, Su-30MK2 and J-11BG/J-11BGH armed PL-8B
But J-7G integrated PL-8B ?
F-16C/D Block 30/40 Barak armed with 6x Python 4
But I don’t know F-15C/D Baz and F-15I Ra’am carries 4x or 6x Python 4
The early 5th gen IR Air-to-Air Missile from USA & RU lack datalink and LOAL capable
I need another 4th gen IR Air-to-Air Missile from USA either
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even then, the performance difference between 9M and P4 is big enough to make up for the lack of improved a2g. all this is assuming they dont add SPICE to the P4 equipped Baz M.
which is why i said bumping it only 2 BR is generous
I’m not arguing about the Python 4 stuff, I just chimed in to say that the A-10Cs ARB BR isn’t “just because IRCCM”
well. with this in mind the PL-8B shouldn´t be added because it would be too strong too because it have a much better and newer seeker than the Python-4 right, also the AAM-3 shouldn´t be added too because it uses a dualband seeker like the Python-4 right, the Magic-2 shouldn´t be added because IRL have 4 element-seeker stated by official sources if you dont belive me contact wareta garasu technical mod and you will find the truth, the R-73 shouldn´t be added because it uses a dualband seeker too IRL, the chinese PL-5E-II uses literally a multi-element seeker that you can find in the TY-90 soo… it shouldn´t be added too, you understand know that many many missiles in game have the same or even better seekers than a Python-4? and this didnt stop gaijin of adding them.
Blue is python 4 in example
Red is Mica
Yes both can do 180 however….
What would make the python so strong is its ability to go around a target while maintaining lock. Meaning you can min the missile without a problem, this also means if you try to disengage with a python 4 on your tail you will die because it’ll keep up with you. This forces you into a fight where if you get to slow your dead to it.
The mica has thrust vectoring however its active radar can not see 180 degrees in all directions making it unable to do a 180 and renegade without perfect conditions.
The lines represent the general area the missile is facing. The pink lines represent lock.
the IAF F-15C/D and I just carrys up to 4 Python-4 but people most likely are gonna use 2 and 6 FOX-3 soo… you know…
first of all the Python-4 doesnt go around like a beyblade A.K.A Mica it have the ability to just turn 180° and keep tracking until it reach the target and its not instantaneous like the rest of the missile the Python-4 dont go full pursuit it uses a 2 oportunity ability to hit the target, IF!!! the target is a certain speed that allows the missile too hit because the Python-4 can do a 180 yes of course but like i said its not the same thing a launch to an enemy going 800km/h than a launch to an enemy going 1300 or 1400km/h what you are representing here is completly situational liquid, its the perfect scenario and conditions for the missile to hit and normaly in a match this does not happen. on the other hand the Python-5 is in a league of its own because it can track everysheep it have in front because of the fullsphere 360° technology soo… no matter what the missile would still tracking if you keep turning to engage a dogfight thing that the Python-4 cant do because of seeker limitations and also batery limitations. also for the ones who dont know the batery life of the Python-4 it just 20 seconds.
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The example was in a merge where the missiles wouldn’t be able to pull but would be able to vector itself to always see the target.
The Mica one is where the mica could hit doing a 180 in perfect conditions which is not very often.
830km/h is the recommended merging speed for the F16c. Meaning if it decide the merge wasn’t the right idea or if it pulled to hard it’ll be dead.
Every missile is situational, this one would be best and would be over powered becuase a lot of planes don’t have a IRCCM pod or BOL.
Everything i can find is that video, but surface is too smooth so you can’t see stabilizer work
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Or F-15C Baz from israel tech tree change config to pre Baz Meshupar (Improve Baz) and remove AIM-120B if gajin add 4x Python 4
I’m waiting twin-seat F-15D Baz Meshupar with Python 4, AIM-120B, AGM-142 Popeye, GBU-15(V)2/B and SPICE 1000 & 2000 for israel tech tree in the future
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F-15D Baz Meshupar could be 14.7 and after F-15C Baz
the thing is if the recomended merging speed of the F-16C is 850km/h and you know that you have a MICA, R-73, Magic-2 a possible Python-4 against you, you would force that merge? you are that intelligent to put yourself in a bad position on purpose? thats the problem, the players going full on rage to fight every black dot they see in the map and thats why they get killed for not using their brains. soo at this point is more a skill issue than any other thing, if you know that a mica can pull the 180° bullshxt you dont want to stay close of a Rafale right? well… its logic right? you know that you would eventually get killed just for putting your self in a situation that you perfectly know that you are in a disadvantage. players needs to stop blaming the missiles for what they can do and instead play a little bit smarter.
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What would you suggest I would do then. (In a US F16C)
I made a post on secret projects forum about it. Those guys are wizards when it comes to finding information, I’ll update you if I get a reply there.
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like i said above with this in mind the PL-8B shouldn´t be added because it would be too strong too because it have a much better and newer seeker than the Python-4 right, also the AAM-3 shouldn´t be added too because it uses a dualband seeker like the Python-4 right, the Magic-2 shouldn´t be added because IRL have 4 element-seeker stated by official sources if you dont belive me contact wareta garasu technical mod and you will find the truth, the R-73 shouldn´t be added because it uses a dualband seeker too IRL, the chinese PL-5E-II uses literally a multi-element seeker that you can find in the TY-90 soo… it shouldn´t be added too. i want you too understand that many many missile we have in game is on pair or it have better seeker than a Python-4 IRL and this didnt stop gaijin of adding them to the game.
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stay fast, keep your energy, be more passive and less agressive dont go to engage or merge to the first enemy you see specially against rafales or typhoons because you would much likely get thirdpartied or killed, the dogfight for us at this point and in the future needs to be the last resource brother i play like this and it really works for me i get many many kills because i play smart and not like a bull that its vision tuneled with a red flag in this case a single enemy, thats the problem with many players, they are blind by getting any kind of kill at all cost not taking into account the consequences and everytime i play top tier its the same thing am one of the last if not the last guy alive fighting alone against 5 or 6 people and many times i ended killing 4 or even 5 of them also you can try other things like restarting the dogfight some players do this i also do this.
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There is a video of ATE saying it has Mokopa integration and a brochure listing it at as an armament