The speed limit isn’t because of the airframe of the missile, it’s because the missile has no coolant
the thing in question is that USA didnt develop a missile between the 9M and 9X israel yes and that shouldn´t be a conditional thing for israel to not recive what it have in the middle, that didnt stop gaijin of giving to japan the AAM-3 missile that is better than the 9M for example and it should be even better because is nerfed, this is not gonna stop gaijin of giving china the PL-8B despite the fact that it have the PL-5E-II for example and also we have the same example but with jets being added to other nations before USA or also the example of germany dont reciving some things because they didnt have it but other nations yes and eventually got added anyways leaving germany aside this didnt stop gaijin of introducing new planes meanwhile germany didnt have many options, in this case is not israel fault for develop such a missile that is between we have now and the next generation, is USA fault for not put founds and hands in work to develop something in the middle, it would not be china´s fault for develop the PL-8B missile that is between we have now and the PL-10 for example, its what it is and again this in no way has to be a conditional thing for any nation to receive indigenous weapons.
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so it also isnt the USAF fault for making the F-22 in between the F-16 and F-35 right? and it shouldnt be a conditional thing for US to not recieve what it have in the middle
As far as I know, sealed models do not require coolant from launcher, I don’t think they has speed limit.
Right but I’m talking about IRL.
And it might just be stabilized in game because of Gaijin’s laziness. They may have seen the optic was stabilized and decided it was good enough to make the launcher stabilized too.
Especially if the early ZT3s lacked stabilization, and I am unaware of them replacing the launcher or stabilizing it. Again that’s just off what I know and I’m looking for info.
Mate, it’s not the missile that has a speed limit. It was the F-14 carrying the sealed round that wasn’t allowed to go over a certain speed, presumably to prevent the missile from cooling down too much
exactly, israel didnt have an F-22 soo israel needed to wait until the F-35 to have a stealth fighter for example, and the only jet in service that got an AESA radar was the Ra´am until today its the only non stealth jet in the IAF that have AESA because the SUFA is still using the old AN/APG-68V9 soo… its israel´s fault to not have an F-16 with an AESA radar when USA have it for example and this should not be a conditional thing for USA to not recive an AESA F-16.
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sounds fair,
maybe Python 4 baz meshupar with USAF F-15C AN/APG-63v3 equipped
if baz still considerably better, AIM-120C-5 to F-15C
F18 slaps f16 at slow speed dogfights, the f16 should not be doing slow 2 circle , the f18 wants to get slow and point its nose and fire a missle. F16 wants to maintain 400 knots in 1 circle . Id say f16 is still a better dogfighter but it doesnt matter if you use either plane incorrectly, get 3rd partied or make mistakes. The hornets aoa is its strong factor along with 12 missles. And if you have 12 missles at the merge you already messed up.
the Python 4 and PL-8B should both be added before other next Gen IRs, and it’d be nothing new or unprecedented for War Thunder. This has happened constantly with Magic 2s, R-73s, etc. Where only one or two nations have access to the best IR missile and the others are behind for a few updates.
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now the jets that should recive the Python-4 is the Baz Meshupar, the F-16C Block 40, the F-15I and the F-16D Block 40 this four jets operated the Python-4 and also the Baz Meshupar radar didnt got upgraded past what it have now soo… no AESA, the American F-15C got an AESA eventually like you mentioned.
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idk about current F-15I getting Python 4 since it serves as the 14.0 and prime strike jet for Israel, for the F-16C or D youd probably have to pick one to get the Python 4.
but the Baz M should be able to go to 14.3 with Python 4, along with AESA + 120C-5 F-15C
the Ra´am should recive it too but going up to 14.3 this is the condition and the Baz Meshupar take the place of the Ra´am in 14.0, the F-16s are fine what they are because you are going to use 4 Fox-3 along side with 2 Python-4s soo… its ok in my opinion.
The python 4 can do a 180 to track a target. It also has a IRCCM that is very powerful.
yeah its time for other nations besides the big ones to have a little bit of participation in that regard right? we waited for soo long at this point.
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14.3 for a Python 4 Ra’am is too low imo, you get best in game close range missile to make up for airframe against EFT and Rafale, and also nearly-best BVR performance the Ra’am already has
the Python 4 is better suited to the Baz anyways. and such a major upgrade would demand the increase in BR. it is a greater difference than going from 9L to 9M, and look at BR of A-10A late and A-10C to see the difference that is in Gaijin’s eyes
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maybe or maybe not we need to see how gaijin implements it yet because nobody knows how the IRCCM performs against flares, certain manouvers or being launched at certains speed to an enemy going past mach 1 and more, the missile flight performance is not finished in the files as far we know.
It shouldn’t be added, it will be way to strong in the current meta. It would be OP until IR reduction technology is added. (Things like the F35 UH-60 and F22)
it has better IRCCM, better speed, better range, better maneuverability than AIM-9M
the AIM-9M only has IRCCM on the AIM-9L, and thats enough for a full 1.0 BR difference between the A-10A and A-10C. Baz M going from 13.7 to 14.3 from Python 4 is generous
IRCCM isn’t the only reason why the A-10C is a full BR above the A-10A…