Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

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2335

Not what I said at all. I was saying the current missiles capability in game is good and strong meaning we shouldn’t add stronger missiles. If a minor nation has a missile with the same capabilities I wouldn’t care if it got added.

Nope I would love to see more indigenous aircraft and designed as long as they are balanced. Don’t need to come at me.

Nothing also this is and the statement above are fallacy’s ameking me want to disregarded everything you have said. You don’t need to come at me as a person to get your point across. Please use actual logic and facts instead of saying american say much mercia.

And i’ve asked you once and I’ll ask you again please use periods and double check your reading. You might give me a stroke.

One more thing don’t come at me please insulting and instigating isn’t the solution and i’m pretty sure it’s against the forums rules. :)

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2336

YAH-64 as an event vehicle
how do u grind it if you dont have a helis

2337

It would be just a normal ground event but with a helicopter reward I’d imagine

2338

that would be good then

2339

I wonder if that YAH-64 is a typo, would make more sense if it was the YAH-63 or the WAH-64

Edit: just checked the leak again, it’s the YAH-56, not YAH-64

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2340

I predict that J-10B late similar to J-10C in 2018

J-10B (late production) outfitted AESA radar, fitted WS-10A engine and armed domestic chinese 5th gen IR Air-to-Air Missile PL-10 but not integrate PL-15

J-10B Early might not the early pre-order pack premium

I suppose might be J-10B TVC

J-10C to researchable tree in rank 9

But battle rating 15.0 minimum

I suppose the next USA aircraft pre-order premium rank 8 maybe F/A-18C (config Q3 1991 ~ Q1 1994) post desert storm

F/A-18E Early it might be Block 1 standard and located after F-14 Tomcat group (F-14B & F-14D), but BR 14.3 minimum

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2341

If they don’t give the f18e better weapons i dont see why it should be above 14.0 without decompression across the board.

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2342

I think when it comes to next gen IR missiles, we have to assume the seekers on them are going to be worse than their real-life performance, otherwise gameplay goes entirely out the window.

So assuming that, the jump from the 9M to missiles like the AIM-9X, ASRAAM, IRIS T, and Python 4/5 is going to be comparable to the jump from R-60M to R-73 at least, however when we actually look at what that level of increase gets us, it can be as low as a 0.3 BR change, looking at the MiG-29 9.12 - MiG-29G

So given that IR missiles are generally a secondary option for fighter aircraft, and that even with next gen IR missiles, radar missiles are still going to be the primary option for most people, I wouldn’t be surprised if those missiles alone only added 0.3/0.7 to the BR of their airframes, you then add better radar missiles onto that and you’re still only looking at a 0.7/1.0 BR increase.

Consider the difference between the F-16ADF and the F-16C, you have a decently improved IR missile and a vastly improved radar missile, now if we apply a similar change, an F-16V with a decently improved radar missile and a vastly improved IR missile would again see a 1.0 BR increase.

Now obviously there are other differences, radar can be included with the radar missile, as at least in air RB that is its primary function, there is the addition of HMD as well which factors in as well as an increased CM count, but if we then include those, the BR difference directly correlated with the better weapons is actually diminished.

There are other examples that can be pointed to, again the MiG-29 9.12 compared to the MiG-29G probably showcases it best, that a vast increase in the capability of at least 4/6 weapons only warranted a 0.3BR increase. The F-15A compared to the F-15C also highlights that a vast increase in lethality only corresponds to a 0.7BR increase.

By this logic we should actually start seeing either new IR or new radar missiles by BR 14.3 and likely both by BR 14.7

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2343

God, I fricken love BR compression

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2344

Yup :/

But if you think about it, flying an F-16C against an F-16V is still probably not as bad as trying to fly the F-16ADF against and F-16C, so we should expect the same or smaller BR difference

2345

They could go to 15.0 and only allow .3 up and down tiers and it’ll be great

2346

Was gonna say i thought it was the Cheyenne. Ive been wanting that thing since i saw it pop up in the files for a long time, pretty unique vehicle imo.

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2347

Won’t be a problem if they give the F-16C its proper missiles :)

2348

Fixing spaa in ground because air is trashing ground. Every nation should have a radar guided missle equipped SPAA and japan still doesnt have one

2349

You talking about the 120C-5 or 9X?

2350

Yessir 🙏

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2351

you know what I’m trying to say dude

2352

Israel doesn’t even have a top tier SPAA, but yeah, we definitely need better SPAA and SAMs for all nations

2353

Israel can join Japan in that

2354

At least the Type 81 is still much better and more fun than having to use the Imp. chaparral lmao