At least as far as I can tell, all APDS & APFSDS are a little off in game to some degree, normally in penetrator weight and diameter from what I’ve seen. Take that as you will.
Math? Practice? B… but I am using an automatic program where all you have to do is imput the value parameters…?
I have used this formula countless times in the past successfully, I think I am just missing the values Gaijin imputs.
In fact, the values I am getting are the same the formula 3BM60 preset provides, so… I don’t really have to learn anything, let alone math xD
The calculator I normally use: https://www.longrods.ch/perfcalc.php
Calculator that includes presets, such as 3BM60, which has a 523mm pen value according to its own preset: APFSDS Penetration Calculator
The only issue here is that Gaijin is using different values compared to the ones found on the preset.
The formula gives lower values for most other shells compared to War Thunder, so I think it’s different densities that they use. Or maybe the perforation-penetration-LOS-0 thing is confusing to me lol.
Hardness of the receiving steel is the biggest guess on what Gaijin uses.
The system is why its used over trusting governments: Everyone is treated equally, and Odermatt made a good system.
It doesn’t matter what steel Gaijin uses so long as they’re consistent [which from my checks it is].
Honestly I’m not a fan of IR missiles atm, I much prefer radar guided AAMs, so I am waiting for the harrier with bated breath. I do hope it comes at a BR where it doesn’t feel like drinking tepid tea far too little sugar to play
If multipathing stays the same, the meta won’t change at all honestly.
It will however change ground RB meta. Planes running ARH in CAP role can seriously hinder enemy CAS. If they work against helis at range as well, it will be a game changer in suppressing enemy air.
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Yep same. I dont have fun in the Gripen. Not a fan of IR dogfighting. When I get round to playing it with ARH in SB, I’ll probably run 2x 9M 4x Derby/AMRAAM. I feel so exposed without that. Its kinda why im looking more foward to the Tornado F3 FSP or Sea Harrier FA2. I prefer mud moving or BVR over WVR at the moment.
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Even if it doesnt change at all, The fact everyone will actually be on a reasonably level playing field in that everyone should have similar IOG/DL capabilies, then it should feel more balance. I think its IOG or IOG+DL that causes the major feeling of imbalance when fighting something with R-24R or R-27
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As a ground main i understood 3 of those words.
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BVR = Beyond visual range (Launching radar guided missile at each at 10km+)
WVR = Within visual range (dogfighting with guns and IR missiles)
Though I suppose missile like MICA IR, R-27ET and ASRAAM would also count as BVR weapons :P
ARH = Active radar homing
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I don’t mind gunfighting so I find the Gripen okay (the BK27 is so much nicer than ADEN 30s), I just find IR-AAMs too easy to defeat these days, if I’m using a RH-AAM I feel like it’s a little more reliable in terms of what I can do to ensure a kill.
Yeah. Especially as so many people just run flare only and rely on multipath to deal with BVRs. too many kills in the F3 because someone has tried to flare a Skyflash or Notch without chaff
I am tentatively going to say, they are the hardest guns to use in game. Especially when you reach the later carriers. God we need radar gunsight on the FRS1
I dont find them that hard to use
I think you’ll still get people who fly high and not understand some missiles perform better than others or how to properly defend with most staying low because they don’t to bother avoid missiles from 10+ players in the initial volley.
I do agree about the great equalizing, but I think the overall snowball effect is going to be the same I think. We’ll have to see though. Especially if Gaijin reduces the number of players per team at that tier.
On paper the GSh23 is worse (~100m/s less MV) but I find the mig-23 at least has the nose authority to get the guns on target much, much easier compared to the like of the harriers, swifts etc. + from my experience the GSh23 does more than tickle what you’re shooting at, unlike the ADENs.
Yeah, there is a LOT of variables to consider. Im just hoping that DL with a good lock and firing in the right way at a low flying target will mitigate much of multpathing
Yeah, if you can land a few good hits, you’ll shread a target with the ADENs, I can just never get the lead right. All muscle memory goes out the window. But radar gun sight would mitigate that greatly.
With Gaijin liking to add things in bundles. Im hoping FA2 will mean FRS1 will get its cockpit HUD + radar gun sight.
Eh, I personally don’t find the ADEN’s do much damage, imo its the lack of filler. You have to hit something important, but in ARB you rarely get the change to take such precise shots. If the airframe even allows that, gawd the harriers are such bricks, I want a hawk 200 with ADEN 25s so so bad
OOooh. Yeah, 25mm ADENs I think are the best guns in the British TT. Hawk is gunna be fun. Fingers crossed for later this year
In theory, I think the bigger the angle the lower the chance of multipathing being a factor? Like coming straight down, versus at a shallow angle.