Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

[Smugspite]

and china*

[Morvran]

Yeah, Tor does fine*

[BasherBenDawg8]

*Cries in Imp. Chaparral

[Tristacomand]

@SPANISH_AVENGER

I really hope U.S and U.K get actual SPAAs at Top Tier soon, indeed.

You know, ones that don’t cost 510 SP to spawn lmao

And, while we are at it, ones on par with Pantsir.

Totally agree.

@SPANISH_AVENGER

The AMRAAM things should do.

This is just a terrible, terrible idea. ARH will be toxic enough on 12.7-13.0 planes.

ARH on ground vehicles would be insanely toxic, AMRAAM in dev server is more powerful a missile in every way than 95Ya6. 95Ya6 at least requires a player to AIM at it (Then the missile flips out and the radar bugs out which ARH won’t do.)

AMRAAM slinger AA would be pure powercreep over even the Pantsir.

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

You know the “best” thing about Imp. Chaparral, which is the reason why I never bothered and will never bother to use it?

The U.S Chaparral is 9.3. That’s because it uses MIM-72E.

The Israeli Chaparral is 10.3. That’s because it uses MIM-72G…

…except MIM-72G is locked behind a 67,900 RP grind; it uses MIM-72E as stock missile.

That means that, until you have spaded 67,900 RP to get the missile that makes it a 10.3 vehicle, you are using a 9.3 vehicle.

I would say it’s a joke, but jokes are suppossed to be funny.

[BasherBenDawg8]

@Tristacomand

This is just a terrible, terrible idea. ARH will be toxic enough on 12.7-13.0 planes.

ARH on ground vehicles would be insanely toxic, AMRAAM in dev server is more powerful a missile in every way than 95Ya6. 95Ya6 at least requires a player to AIM at it (Then the missile flips out and the radar bugs out which ARH won’t do.)

AMRAAM slinger AA would be pure powercreep over even the Pantsir.

*Laughs in SPYDER

SPYDER AIO: The Real Sky Guardian

poll [Flag_of_Israel_svg.png.5fba6bee3611d9895] SPYDER AIO: The Real Sky Guardian [Rafael_Advanced_Defense_Systems_Logo_svg] Disclaimer : There isn’t too many details or images on this vehicle. If information needs to be corrected, please share a source with the corrections. Thanks! [ALL-IN-ONE-SPYDER.jpg] The Rafael SPYDER AIO air defense platform. Description: The SPYDER, or Surface-to-air PYthon and DERby is an air defense system began development in the early 2000’s by Israeli comp…

[Tristacomand]

@Morvran

THey could do with just adding a new SPAA to every single nation at once except USSR

Soviets really badly need an AA to deal with 7.7-9.7 helicopters that are really predatory. But they don’t really need anything else right now as far as AA is concerned.

[Smugspite]

@Tristacomand

AMRAAM slinger AA would be pure powercreep over even the Pantsir.

tbf russia has enjoyed unopposed CAS and air defence for over a year now its about time other nations got to be at least on the same tier, you also act like gaijin wont nerf the shit out of it looks at stingers and mistrals

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

@Tristacomand

This is just a terrible, terrible idea. ARH will be toxic enough on 12.7-13.0 planes.

ARH on ground vehicles would be insanely toxic, AMRAAM in dev server is more powerful a missile in every way than 95Ya6. 95Ya6 at least requires a player to AIM at it (Then the missile flips out and the radar bugs out which ARH won’t do.)

AMRAAM slinger AA would be pure powercreep over even the Pantsir.

Nothing can be toxic enough against SU-23SM3s spawnkilling entire Ground teams from 20 km away.

The only toxic thing in Top Tier is C*S and Hel1copters anihilating entire ground teams on their own.

Pantsir? I wish everyone had Pantsir. Maybe then ground players would be able to play ground vehicles once in a while without being consistently stomped by flying crap.

[dotSHINI]

Spyder never would get arh missles only the ir ones

[BasherBenDawg8]

To this day, it’s the only vehicle I’ve ever bought modifications at full price of GE for…
Honestly it’s a 10.0-9.7 vehicle even then when it’s spaced lol

[Tristacomand]

I played the dev server with all the ARH.

You remember how ground AA has multipathing disabled?

So I don’t think we want that.

[BasherBenDawg8]

Says who ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[Smugspite]

I played the dev server as well and I found them to be very meh, and again you act like gaijin wont nerf them to be just worse then what russia has

[_Renzo]

@SPANISH_AVENGER

That means that, until you have spaded 67,900 RP to get the missile that makes it a 10.3 vehicle

Having unlocked MIM-72G myself, even with that missile it’s not even worth 10.3. It’s less versatile than the strela at the same BR.

[dotSHINI]

The 50km range of the derbys

[Tristacomand]

@SPANISH_AVENGER

Nothing can be toxic enough against SU-23SM3s spawnkilling entire Ground teams from 20 km away.

Weird how it wasn’t a problem when 6 AGM-65D were doing that. Suddenly USSR has a slow 4-free-kills plane, it’s a huge issue.

@SPANISH_AVENGER

Pantsir? I wish everyone had Pantsir. Maybe then ground players would be able to play ground vehicles once in a while without being consistently stomped by flying crap.

Sure thing. But ARH would be worse than Pantsir, that’s all I’m saying.

Strong AA is needed for all nations. ARH would just be too much.

[BasherBenDawg8]

If multipathing is disabled for the ground vehicles and their radars (minus the fact the missiles don’t proxy near the ground) do we know if it would also be disabled for the missiles themselves? I have a feeling Aim-120s fired from air defenses on the ground would still eat dirt if multipathing is exploited properly

[BasherBenDawg8]

Sounds like we need 100km sized maps hahaha

[DevilO6]

@SPANISH_AVENGER

U.K get actual SPAA

I had a solution to that

Spoiler

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/za-hvm-sharpshooters-spear-throwing-brother/107829

Sadly Snail is not that easy to convince, and now im trying to prove using my sources it was completed enough