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Iirc the max will be three, as one hardpoint is needed for pavespike, apparently can take AS-30L though
4x TV guided Martels.
If they’re willing to have this much conversation, should ask them if they have any more info on this “top tier JP jet” to share with us.
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Hmm, interesting. Does it get countermeasures? And I’m assuming it’s pod dosnt have thermals
Wait, what is this weapon in the first place? Never heard of them
No, you need hardpoint for datalink pod iirc, so 3x TV martel
Right yep, my mistake, 3x TV or 4x AR
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British ARM, there was a modified version with a TV guidance sensor (might be British french? Can’t remember)
Air-to-ground missiles
This is where stuff gets interesting. Unfortunately you do have to say goodbye to the AGM-12 Bullpups, but in return you get access to the Martel missile. Martel stands for “Missile, Anti-Radar and Television”, as the name suggests it comes in both both Anti-radiation and TV guided versions. While neither type of weapon is currently in the game, they will be at some point (TV guidance has apparently been confirmed by the devs); and the Buccaneer S.2B is one of the only British aircraft to get these types of weapons. This would make having the Buccaneer S.2B necessary for Britain to have access to AR and TV missiles when they are added. Limited information is available online about the Martel, but it is a undoubtedly very large missile at 3.89 m (TV) or 4.14 m (AR) long, and weighing 574 kg (TV) or 535 kg (AR). The missile is also know to have a fairly long range; different sources give varying figures, but around 30 - 60 nautical miles (60 - 120 km), depending on launch conditions seems to be widely reported. The warhead of both missiles is widely reported to be 150 kg. Photos of the Martel can be seen below:
The TV Martel is equipped with a Semi-Armour Piecing High Explosive warhead and impact fuse for use against hard targets. When the TV Martel is fired it climbs to an altitude above the firing aircraft and a TV image is displayed to the operator. The missile flies on a form of auto-pilot (the operator is allowed limited course correction) while the operator uses the missile’s camera to identify the target; at this point they switch the missile into terminal mode. This gives them control over the azimuth of the missile, once the missile gets close enough to the target it enters a dive and gives the operator full control over the missile to guide it on to the target.
The AR Martel is equipped with a High-Explosive blast warhead and proximity fuse for use against enemy radars. The missile locks on to enemy radars (e.g. the radar of an anti-aircraft system); when it is fired the missile climbs to an altitude above the aircraft and automatically flies to the target. Once reaching the target it enters a steep dive and uses the proximity fuse to explode next to the target.
The Buccaneer S.2B can carry up to four AR Martel missiles, or three TV Martel missiles (one pylon is required for a data-link pod when carrying TV missiles). It is also possible to carry a mixed load of TV and AR missiles, as can be seen in the images below). - Source
I see now, and do we have good evidence for the AS-30L?
I dont think for Britain (or at least the Buc S2B). I think the Buc S50 used by South Africa might have had them
Only on SAAF bucc’s so depends on how gaijin feels (i.e. like the PGMs on the tonka)
Ok, problem, the devs have been against adding this specific type of weapon system, where the TV guidance system lets the crew “drive” the missile to target, so they must either find a way to make it work like a normal TV guided missile, or just not add it at all
Hoping for Martels for the Tornado Gr1 as well. (sources confirmed for that) So hopefully theyd treat it like a regular TV guided weapon,
With Gaijin’s track record for Chinese vehicles, I would not get my hopes up yet.
If it is ZBD04 (not the A version), I can see Gaijin give it BMD-4 C&P performance. For ZBD04A, they will probably just C&P BMP-3.
Problem is that’s why the JH-7A hasn’t gotten the KD-88, so I wouldn’t hold my breath. Hopefully they are atleast generous and give y’all the AS-30L in the same way the F-5E got Mavericks
Hopefully they just model it like TV guided bombs that loft
What your saying dosnt make since, the ZBD-04A is just a upgraded version, why would it be worse in any way to the normal version?
Also we know it’s Autoloader is closer in prefromance to the BMD-4 or BMP-3M, not the base BMP-3
Yeah, that could work. Buc S2B would need something, because whilst I think it was 3x Laser guided bombs. with pavespike pod. It would be sub-sonic, which puts it notably behind the Jaguar Gr1A. So it would need something more. Any TV guided AGM would be ideal.