DCS has people believing the Su-33 actually exists xD
It technically was the most advanced version of the lineage. It had refined systems found on even upgraded Su-27s, and was effectively a more capable Su-30. Both were carrier-capable aircraft, the only difference being the Su-33 is a 1-seater… Which kind of holds the stigma of “more capable” against other aircraft.
I feel a late Su-33 could be a nice tree addition, or something like a squadron vehicle. If the game gets to the point of adding an Su-30, it would be the perfect “free” counterpart to it, much like how the M1A1 AIMv2 accompanies the M1A1HC.
My point was that the Su-37 was as far from the Su-27 as the Su-33 is from the Su-27.
Does the Su-30M not have canards?
Yeah, there isn’t much to differ. The only point of adding them would be for the variety and fine-tuning of personal preference, and I’d love to see more variants of every plane for this reason. I’ve personally been heavily involved with F-16 Block 42+[+]s, which I’d love to see in-game.
If there are more specific variants of every plane, gameplay could be much less stale. Different variants with different engines and capabilities, different weights, different levels of maneuverability and speed, and almost all of it comes down to personal preference.
The issue I’ve been trying to state, though, is that to have these variants we’d need functioning base models to begin with. We don’t atm.
OG Su-30 is just the production redesignation for what would’ve been the Su-27UP, which would’ve been a two seat version of the OG PVO Flanker. Biggest changes were a new radar and new missiles (R-77) in what was intended to mostly be a Far East deployed type of Flanker on interception duty. Testing determined that a second operator (basically a WISO) for radar duty would increase crew performance and flight time. I’m going to just say right now, unless it’s the latest Su-33, that the second operator/WISO in the back is more valuable than anything else the Su-33 has. IIRC the FBW is the same, only major structure and fuselage changes are different. So I’d say less capable imo.
It can go in the TT, but the Su-30 HAS to go in the TT, it’s too iconic, too critical.
No. Su-30M is the first upgrade of the Su-30, and simply adds some MFD’s and the necessary fire-control components to give the Su-30 multirole capability. The export version to China is much more well known, Su-30MKK.
Canards on the Su-27K were basically meant to help achieve more lift on ramp-assisted takeoff. I believe the later Su-33 FBW might take more advantage of this, but yeah. Su-30SM is the first supermaneuverable Flanker, and is the Russian designation for the base plane that is the Indian Su-30MKI (M-multirole K-export I-India). That is the first serious canard Flanker.
Also, MiG-29K might actually be the best Fulcrum out there, and would likely be better overall than the 27K.
Edit: Also, technically, the first Su-30 prototypes flew before the end of the USSR, and the production line started up production just before the fall as well. In all likelihood, the earliest Su-30’s were USSR production.
Yeah, what I meant was the Su-30M when I had said the legacy Su-30. I had entirely forgotten the little stopgap design of the base model Su-30.
Logistically and in an IRL sense? Absolutely. In-game? Not really…
Yeah, I can see that. Maybe a '2004 variant of the Su-33 with the improved radar and RWR? I’d say at that point the Su-30M would be a perfect pair-up for that.
I must be wrong about it entirely, then. I’m not too familiar with the Su-30 series. I primarily look into domestic vehicles, so please excuse all the wacky shit I’ve been getting wrong.
Russia still has plenty of MBT’s left to add, most are just prototypes tho, but they are very real and we have decent info on most of them. The T-14 isn’t actually that much of a mystery to, especially when you consider that the Type 10 is already in the game. We have a good guess at about how thicc the Armatas armor is, and can guess how effective it is, especially since we know it uses Depleted Uranium. The armor layout of Armata should be similar to Object 195, which is based off of Object 187, both if which could come before Armata anyways.
As you can see, it’s a thicc ass block of composite. The welds in front of the drivers hatch mark where the composite array begins
The rumor actually came from a very small planning phase for a T-90AM with the 152.4mm for testing, though that was never implemented and never got past the drawboard.
Maybe true as well, but I also know that one of the first military expos with T-90M, had a panel claim it also used the gun, even tho no production version ever did
I’d have to do some digging and look, but I def remember that one of the military expos for Russia claimed that the regular 90M had the improved gun for some reason.
Might be this one, not sure tho
First two models had new exhaust ports out of the rear instead of the left side. 3rd and 4th had GTD-1250’s in them. Models three and four would basically be a T-80 power pack and transmission on a T-72 hull, with a welded T-90 turret. Basically what I’ve been arguing Russia needs to develop next, more or less. Very interesting, even though I don’t like the look of the gun tbh.
Black eagle would actually be ana amazing tank, both in game and real life, as it solves the biggest issue with Russian tanks, that being ammo detonations. But the composite found on 187 wasn’t for nothing, as it’s most likely the base design for what’s now the armor on the Armata(just don’t worry about production numbers xaxaxa)
