ARB: 9.3 like yak38 or 9.7 like harrier GR.1
Harrier is faster and has better missile and unironically better flight performance for those missiles
It doesn’t have to be meta, just useable. And attackers always shine more in mixed gamemodes anyway. The mavericks are the key here.
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So then Finland can’t get the Hawks er well their unique models. It’s like the Mig 21 MGBT I don’t see it ever getting added because it’s missiles are inferior to the 10.7 Mig 21s and it’s flight performance is that of a 11.0 Mig lazur
Depends 9.7 would make it outrange all SPAA which is unbalanced it shouldn’t also be .3 BR difference from something like the Tornado which is 10.0 hell the F-35 is 10.7 in ground lol
also 9.3 like yak-38 (with rear aspect R-60) or at much lower BR with no missiles at all like the L-39
Finland could add the Folland Gnat and MiG-21F-12; the latter would have a major balancing problem due to the Paris Treaty (no guided missiles on Finnish aircraft until 1989); or Gaijin could just ignore that and give it its K-13s ‘because the Soviet MiG-21F-13 carried them’, and that would give the Swedish tree a nice, supersonic missile slinger at Rank VI BR 8.7/9.3/9.7 alongside the somewhat lackluster Hunter J34 and Saab J29F Tunnan.
… but this isn’t the suggestion thread and I don’t even know why we are talking about this in the RR&D.
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I’m gonna ask, when ha gaijin ignored non historical loadouts for the Fins for the sake of useful balance? This is why they lost bombs on the Mig 21 despite having them and the capacity to use them irl. They just weren’t allowed to
If that gets flares, then it’s perfectly fine.
they can add them, but it would be a Mirage IIIC situation again like in 2020, with very OP missiles, but it can’t really defend unless it uses rockets as flares. With R-60M it could get added, but just be really annoying to fly. Aim-9M is out of the question imo.
But the 9M is the most unique thing as it’s the only hawk that has them
That’s like asking for the Viggens to not get access to their missiles, oh wait that already happened
Additionally where do we put Johan Gul the J35J? No flares but has RB28 and J
Do we put it at 10.3 the same BR as the XS which can mount those also?
Or 10.0 where it’s better than the D model?
I’m not Gaijin so I don’t know.
I’m still a bit giddy about finally getting the bombs and rockets the French F-100D DID carry alongside the AIM-9Bs after literally years of players complaining about this and even showing the pictures of the French F-100Ds with all of the weapons laid out in front of them.
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If they do add it, it would be 12.7 or maybe 12.3, which would be very unfun. We would need loadout-dependent BR’s to fix that. :D
Honestly that’s kinda what I hope happens, I just want people to see how gaijin doesn’t care lmao
May chaos take the world
Seriously though I can keep going, I have plethora of aircraft that are unique because of their armament but can’t be added because of their modifications/armament
maybe, but imo, Sweden was just really late with using technology like countermeasures and just didn’t have enough development/procurement variety to be a standalone tech tree for 1970s+ jets. They badly need(ed) other nations to fill in the gaps, which is very slowly happening with the Norwegian and Danish additions this year and 2025. To say Gaijin doesn’t care is disingenuous, it seems like they are just really slow.
imo they should just add a copy J35XS in the finnish subtree (like JA37DI F21 and JA37DI) (and also add rb28/27 to both XSs)
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That’s weird, I know there’s images of our F-100F with bombs and rockets but the main difference with air aircraft is we had the multibomb racks available for our F-100 alongside I believe Shrike missiles as they were tested with a few units bought, I’d need to double check.
Dang I almost forgot how long it’s been since it was actually fun to fly the Super Catfish with how compressed air is.
They did have them lol, the recon models of Draken had the CMs mounted just not the fighters
Unfortunately gaijin doesn’t give Sweden the CM compatibility treatment like the US