Not saying remove I’m saying folder also I’d say add a mod that turns the jet models into the early jets which kept their 13.2mm guns over the 50cal
For those I agree, although the J-35D should still be separate, as it’s a different vehicle.
Like I said before, we need more planes first, as the variety of planes is just too little. It’s a neglected air tree, both because of how little planes Sweden and Finland used IRL, but also because they get only little additions sadly enough.
Can’t add a majority of swedens aircraft is the problem, too hard to balance or gaijin doesn’t care
needs a full danish subtree
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A lot of them don’t fit the current game indeed. But some definitely can be!
I agree. And more Norwegian (aka British) planes.
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I’ll give an example where does the XT go?
Same terrible flight performance but now with 4x 9J missiles and Maverick missiles
Remember the 105 is 8.3 BR
So either you ruin its reason to add it or make it useless. Same with Finlands Hawks, which get R60 and 9M but no flares
9.7/9.3 in ground, maybe 9.3 in air, just like the hunter, but two more missiles. Seems like a no-brainer.
yeah, those are currently not fit for the game.
Israel A4s get flares and 9G missiles, hunter also gets flares and better flight performance
ARB: 9.3 like yak38 or 9.7 like harrier GR.1
Harrier is faster and has better missile and unironically better flight performance for those missiles
It doesn’t have to be meta, just useable. And attackers always shine more in mixed gamemodes anyway. The mavericks are the key here.
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So then Finland can’t get the Hawks er well their unique models. It’s like the Mig 21 MGBT I don’t see it ever getting added because it’s missiles are inferior to the 10.7 Mig 21s and it’s flight performance is that of a 11.0 Mig lazur
Depends 9.7 would make it outrange all SPAA which is unbalanced it shouldn’t also be .3 BR difference from something like the Tornado which is 10.0 hell the F-35 is 10.7 in ground lol
also 9.3 like yak-38 (with rear aspect R-60) or at much lower BR with no missiles at all like the L-39
Finland could add the Folland Gnat and MiG-21F-12; the latter would have a major balancing problem due to the Paris Treaty (no guided missiles on Finnish aircraft until 1989); or Gaijin could just ignore that and give it its K-13s ‘because the Soviet MiG-21F-13 carried them’, and that would give the Swedish tree a nice, supersonic missile slinger at Rank VI BR 8.7/9.3/9.7 alongside the somewhat lackluster Hunter J34 and Saab J29F Tunnan.
… but this isn’t the suggestion thread and I don’t even know why we are talking about this in the RR&D.
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I’m gonna ask, when ha gaijin ignored non historical loadouts for the Fins for the sake of useful balance? This is why they lost bombs on the Mig 21 despite having them and the capacity to use them irl. They just weren’t allowed to
If that gets flares, then it’s perfectly fine.
they can add them, but it would be a Mirage IIIC situation again like in 2020, with very OP missiles, but it can’t really defend unless it uses rockets as flares. With R-60M it could get added, but just be really annoying to fly. Aim-9M is out of the question imo.
But the 9M is the most unique thing as it’s the only hawk that has them
That’s like asking for the Viggens to not get access to their missiles, oh wait that already happened