I LOVE BUYING 10 DIFFERENT PREMIUMS ACROSS ALL THE TREES JUST TO PLAY MY NATION’S VEHICLE RAAAAAAAAAAH!
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I’ll say my two coins in this purely due to how I feel about it, if a Singapore vehicle hasn’t got a connection via a nation unlike the Hunter imho it should be placed in Britain due to Singapore being in the Commonwealth and now gaijin has a place for said commonwealth in the second ground line of Britain as that is now classed as a export/commonwealth line. I’m not saying all vehicles should go their before anyone cuts my throat but defo ones that hasn’t got a connection to anyone, If they do have a connection like the Hunter then they should go in that nation.
Or just don’t split it. Hunter is already going to Israel, so why not everything go to Israel?
Not saying Israeli mains would love it but they could definitely benefit having a Leopard 2 MBT to boost their strength (given how Gaijin is so adamant in changing how Merkava armour works).
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Finland, Sweden, and Norway all have their vehicles on other TTs
Finland is the only one that has been denied its own equipment and Norway will likely continue to have its equipment given to the US like they recently did.
That would also work and be the healthiest option
iirc they’ve never denied the possibility, but have denied the possibility of moving vehicles (eg Greek AH-64A in the US won’t be “moved” to Israel, they’d just make a copy of it like the Israeli Merkavas)
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Officially, they have not denied the possibility. But you can tell they’re very adamant regardless.
I don’t think it has for Spain or Poland, both are just without a home so far. From there many nations have become techtrees or subtrees later, such as Italy, Israel, Finland and more.
Only Australia, Canada and now Singapore are officially stated to be split as their permanent “home” in game, which is the real problem, since that just shows the unwillingness to change this in the future and blatant disrespect for these nations as actual nations.
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Either way I wish for Singapore to be in a single nation. I’m still hung up on Cyprus → Israel since it doesn’t really fit imo (as a Cypriot).
Yeah why Cyprus? That’s still something I’m scratching my head about. Do we really need Israel to have a T-80U?
Could be due to gaijin wanting to bump out as many sub as possible to increase the nation’s count ?
Subtrees, despite all they could be and are presented as by Gaijin, are really just a way for Gaijin to add things they want to add.
Want Britain to get a T-90? Now we add India. Israel struggles? Greece and Cyprus. Japans CAS is bad? Malaysia. And so on.
They look for what they want to add, find ways to justify it later.
This can be a well known national connection, or maybe a popular player suggestion, or even some other unknown reason. If its well received it goes through, if not, it probably still does unless it’s absolutely unavoidable. For example look at Gaijin trying to add Singapore to China not once, but twice before cancelling it.
And after it was cancelled, we can see what happens then. They don’t care for representing Singapore, they just want to use their prepared assets while changing their existing plans as little as possible. So they decided to split the nation.
It’s really just disrespectful, since it just shows that to them Singapore was only a tool to add some vehicles somewhere they wanted them, rather than a nation to represent in their game. This attitude is really the main flaw of subtrees, since it causes pretty much all issues the system has.
(I’m not saying national needs shouldn’t be a factor by the way, but I think there should be a mutual respect for these nations, not just one-sided for the host.)
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Singapore exists! It’s been something a few of us has been asking for a while given the literal close ties with Israel! Cyprus makes almost no sense and have near zero relations with Israel. The only reason I can see why Cyprus is even considered is because of relations with Greece and Turkey, which means Gaijin might even have plans to add Turkey to Israel at some point.
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They have had military relations recently (eg being the first potential customer for Merkavas currently, and being part of a Military Pact w/ Greece too), but its so recent (5 years, 10 at best) and within that timespan, there’s been a lot of controversies regarding Cyprus and Israel.
Which imo would be weak reasoning, because it has close relations with a subtree rather than the main tree.
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they are
Yes but that still doesn’t change they’re indigenous, anyway I get what you mean but its a weak reasoning either way.
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im not disagreeing with the Hunter going to Israel, but you cant just use the Bionix as an example of an indigenous AFV when the armored, fighting and vehicle parts are all not indigenous
It is still home based design, custom made parts for our needs and use. It is very much indigenous despite manufactured/parts from the US. We didn’t just buy a Bradley and modify it to our needs nor did we get all off the shelf parts outside of the power pack and gun at best.
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dont forget German MEXAS armor
Ye ye the point being that this whole convo began because Gaijin wants to split SG apart, and I’m pretty much against that idea regardless.
As long as this elephant in the room gets addressed, I’ll be cool. My bottom line is everything in one tree as a subtree. If that doesn’t get fulfilled then I give no care about this game and will drop it.
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