With Thailand and Hungary, we can at least say their top tier vehicles are unique. Leo2A7HU is unique, so will be Oplot. The Benelux Leo2s, however, are really just copypasta.
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@Smin1080p_WT Sorry for the ping, but I’m curious: while staying vague, would you say you are looking forward too/excited for the vehicles coming this patch?
Many of which could’ve easily been replaced by modified variants that would fill the same niche while being unique and interesting.
For example across the leaked four Thai ground vehicles, three seem to be found in other trees. But this doesn’t have to be the case.
The basic M163 can easily be implemented in the form of the M163 TVADS Super Vulcan, featuring IR tracking device and sight alongside internal controls for the weapon. It’s still able to fill the same niche, while being more interesting.
The M60A3 has multiple options. There is of course the modernized Thai M60A3 TIFCS with new thermal sight and turret drive among other things.
But even when trying to stick to the M60A3 TTS specifically and the BR it’s placed at this Thai tank can be made unique through the addition of a unique Thai add-on armor set.
Then there is the Stingray, which is being added to the Thai tech tree (as the only operating nation) and the US techtree (as the developing nation). Personally I don’t have as much of an issue with this as others, but I don’t like the idea of copying the production model used by Thailand over to the US tree, where it was never used.
Instead I believe it would be better to play into the US as the developing nation, and instead add it as one of the Stingray prototypes. These could potentially feature slightly lower mobility and ammunition options fit for a lower BR, but even with identical performance they would at least be visually distinct and interesting, showing players that they are in fact prototypes for the production tank exclusively found with Thailand.
These would feature simple visual differences in their hull mounting points, mirrors, lacking gun mount attachment points and depending on the prototype either a different flat drivers hatch or turret with different smoke launcher and machine gun mount placement.
It’s really easy to make these vehicles interesting, even with what seems like minor changes. These are just somehow not done in many cases. Most notably ones like the ROC M60A3 TTS missing handrails on the turret since it simply reuses the US model with the ERA hidden.
Small details can really help such vehicles, so they shouldn’t be ignored.
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“What do you mean we’re not allowed to have 5 more jets than everyone else?” :(
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The problem… We have had maybe a single sub-TT vehicle that was actually a good addition. Every single other additions has either replaced a domestic option or been at the same BR as a deomestic option and major holes. The very thing they claim sub-tts are intended for have yet to be fixed.
For example
we have 2x SPAA at 5.3, 3x SPAA at 8.3 and 4x SPAA at 10.3x 10.0/10.3.
All 3 of those BRs have at least 1 sub-TT SPAA. But we have yet to get a single SPAA between 5.3 and 8.3. Just why? Delete those 4 sub-TT SPAAs and add one at 6.0 and another at 7.0. One at 9.0 would be nice too.
Again, we just got the Badger. You know what the Badger is? Most likely a downgrade to the Falcon, Fox and Scimitar. Do you know what we lack. A decent high tier IFV to match something like the PUMA, 2S38, etc etc
My problem is they keep adding bad sub-TT vehicles instead of either
A) Fixing bug reports for exisitng vehicles
or
B) adding a domestic option for the exact same role at the exact same BR
or
C) actually filling a hole within the TT
Im genuinely expecting to get an Indian SPAA at 8.3 long before we see a single SPAA from Britain or any commonwealth nation at 6.0/7.0 and thats the problem.
We have the weakest top tier MBT, to the point where we might as well not even be consider top tier capable and yet apparently im the problem for not wanting a C&P T-90 at 10.7?
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Here it comes…
I love you morvran.
But yeah, the things you said i absolutely agree with.
would have liked Ajax tbh
Yeah exactly. if they are going to add an IFV anywhere. Add a decent one to 10.7 not a really weak one at 9.0
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can the hstv-l pls get a ammo box would be nice :)
Remember the classic line of “Britain should only get the Tornado and be happy” : P
Meanwhile US is asking for more than 5 different jets just after getting 4 within 3 updates.
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US need plane, but not hornet, viper, eagle or something like that.
honestly i don’t mind the badger as an addition but personally i’m just not fussed about it, from what i hear it’s not great, an autocannon vehicle for the 9.3 lineup is nice but there’s enough diversity there already that it’s not like, necessary
and the Irony as always, if we had the Tornado we have now
- Better, though still not finished FM
- lower MP
- with better decompression
- (and the split CMs on the IDS)
Id probably would have been content that year. The problem was the Tornado IDS and ADV were god-aweful until a year/ year & a half after their introduction. Long after we finally got an F-16/Mig-29 equivalent. The Tonka we had was aweful and would have barely been 11.0/11.3 worthy if added right now. Im currently somewhat advocating for maybe a BR increase for th F3 with the right buffs
I don’t think the US necessarily needs a plane, but yeah everyone who complains about not getting (more) Hornets is either a Hornet fan or an idiot.
Yeah… Which is my biggest issue with both the Sub-TTs and generally the order in which they add ground (and maybe any tree actually) vehicles regardless of sub-TTs (though the entire point of Sub-TTs is apparently to fill holes the domestic TT cant fill… but anyway)
They seem to add additions randomly. Rather than prioritizing a problem area. Even if every other update added something specifically targeted to patch a problem area for every TT, the game would be so much healthier for it
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The f 18 c early worth to buy it for cas in Germany??
I think the teaser will be late night
There is so many good top teirs we could get as well
Just a note the Indian T90 is the “original” of the 2 chronologically speaking in terms of IRL production and adoption.
Also, I could be wrong, doesnt it also have a pretty significantly different model?
no