i mean they could just not add it. it was only on a one off test, the UK never went anywhere with it. Both the American and British AH-64E could get JAGM-MR and of course the baseline JAGM
while true i still think best bet is AH-64E with ldircm and JAGM for the US one and Brimstone 1s and MAWS for the british one so they both have ups and downs
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dont both have MAWS?
They could always add a more equal version for both and then a really kitted out American one .3-.7 higher
why when both could be balanced at the same BR…? like it just sounds like you want the US one to be just better for ego stroking
How?
ldircm > MAWS
JAGM > Brimstone 1s
US Army invested more into their AH-64, and would you rather have them at the same BR?
They can add a version without CIRCM or SPIKE NLOS, at the same BR as a British one that cannot get CIRCM or SPIKE NLOS, so they cover a wider BR range.
Brimstone 1 is 12km from heli
JAGM is 8km from a heli
Also only Brimstone 2 was ever fitted to the AH-64E so thats 25km not 12km
In what way is Brimstone worse than JAGM?
Especially as Brimstone also has the better seeker iirc
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base JAGM has the same range of the hellfires and would only be SAL in game unless they give it MMV
the Brimstone 1 has 12km range so 4 more then the JAGM and the same guidance
so again it would be the british apache losses defence while the US has shorter range weapons (literally the same range of everyone else currently)
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Currently, but not when it’s added with LMUR and CM-502KG
And at least the LMUR will have other downsides to compensate for that increased range.
the only issue of those 2 is the CM-502KG with 25 km range not to mention it only has SAP HE or HE warheads meaning with out a roof hit it most likely wont kill
Was the seeker on the JAGM carried over from longbow hellfire
Such as?
We need a real ground BR decompression not 0.3 +
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one of the slowest atgms while only being able to carry 4 of them
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I dont know, but Im fairly certain I saw something about it operating in a similar ghz range
Watch the F-35 be 14.7 and thus fighting against F-16’s which are at 13.7.
The 230 m/s top speed and that a Mi-28 only has 4 (iirc) maybe? Every kilometer that you increase the range with adds 4 seconds for the target to react.
Have you ever used a heli with spikes? Those all have 20km range.
Do you ever see these helis shoot from that far away? No because the game will be over before your spike even reaches the target if you launch them from 20km away.
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Fair enough. Then the CM-502KG is the only thing that fully outclasses a baseline JAGM. I wouldn’t immediately make assumptions on the warhead, I guess we just wait for the dev server to see how lethal it is
Do you know how fast a spike NLOS would go? Or would it also have the same issue