Ik i just got confused cuz flaklands feels small
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Canada is not a subtree, South Africa and India are subtrees.
Despite Gaijin’s inexplicable inconsistency, Britain is effectively a Commonwealth tree and both Canada and Australia have clearly been unoffical sub-trees for years. If Gaijin officially made Canada a sub-tree today would you suddenly change your opinion?
The M3 Grant was produced FOR BRITAIN
It’s still just a Lee with a slightly modified turret. It has a place in the tree but it’s easily the least interesting M3 derivative available for Britain.
Britain and its two subtrees are taking the backseat.
For a bit of perspective, in the last 5 updates Britain has had 24 new vehicles.
-16 British
-2 South African
-2 Indian
-2 Australian
-1 Canadian
The last update back in June we got 5 British vehicles and 1 South African. These three taking the backseat for one single update isn’t the end of the world.
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Taking a backseat in their own tree?
Nerfing would appear in the datamines.
AIM-9Ms have locked onto flares prior to launch since the release of AIM-9Ms, nothing has changed.
Also the mathematics here already proved the datasheet wrong:
This is me taking the datasheet seriously, trusting it to be correct on at least one datapoint.
So if you’re accusing this math of being wrong, you’re accusing your own source of being wrong on empty weight or other masses.
Remember that on top of the unique-ness thing, even though Starstreak was tested on a US Apache it was entirely funded by the UK government (the same goes for Brimstone on AH-64Es).
Should be two Canadians, but didn’t get the bug report out in time, sadly.
For reference this was what I was talking about: MTB-460: Community Bug Reporting System
I thought the Brimstone thing was MBDA and Boeing. UK never went anywhere with it. Still only ever put on an American Apache, and the funding thing is a very slippery slope
even by that context
British Empire is clearly a British subtree
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Where did u brought this stats from? And how do u know there isnt other improvments?
Like how much is the fuel?
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might be the nicest response from a manager I’ve seen
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From what I’ve read I’m pretty sure the MDBA trials were funded by the UK government contract. The US had even less to do with the project other than a US Apache being used (which would be virtually identical to a UK one).
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how to make the SPYDER totally useless in 1 single update from being totally unfinished to literally non existent thanks gaijin! Rafale getting a CONSIDERABLE BUFF??? HUH!!! ARE THEY CRAZY??? if it wasn´t already the best and most dominant top tier jet with above %61 of winrate surely this will make the things more balance right guys? (OF COURSE NOT), KH-38s more BUFFS to the fictional missile… i cant man i cant with this anymore, sufa coming!!! OUR LAST 4 GEN JET BEFORE THE F-35 AT IT WILL BE A DAMN DISAPPOINTMENT like i said yesterday unless they add it with Python-4 and I-Derby ER dont expect it to be totally different from what the D Blk 40 is and if it werent enough for israel we will not have a 4+ or 4++ jet with AESA radar because israel do not have it we are going to wait until the F-35 next year to finally have something at the level of the RAFALE!!! because seeing in what direction are we going i expect gaijin to not even add a subtree to israel to solve this huge technological gap. again thanks!
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Maybe it’s not just the boat that’s canadian :-)
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Even then, that doesn’t change the fact they used an American AH-64E to integrate the missile onto. Which is what actually matters for what can and can’t use a missile
From your own datasheet.
Full fuel is 2.7 tons. 6x Derby mass is 0.7 tons. 6x AIM-9 mass is .5 tons.
If that’s 6x Derbys and 2.7tons of fuel, that’s 3.4 tons of weapons and fuel. 12.8 - 13.4 is 9.4 tons, not 10 tons. I don’t know the weapons they were mentioning so I went with 0.6 for the initial math to give 9.5 tons empty.
In-game F-16D is 9018kg empty, or barely over 9 tons.
So F-16I being 300 - 500kg heavier than F-16D is a tad more likely than 1 full ton when there are no major airframe differences.
Also whoever claimed that conformal tanks have countermeasures, they don’t:
Surely US an UK AH64Es are virtually identical though other than the (relatively new) LDIRCM?
But its not straight up f16d it was improved
The airframe itself is a bit diffrent
We’ve been told multiple times that Canada and Australia are in fact not subtrees. What you personally consider as an unofficial subtree is up to you.
I would change my opinion, yes, but not in a positive direction.
It’s not a Lee. It’s a Grant. The US pattern is the Lee and the British pattern is the Grant.
Pretty sure it was 14 British vehicles + the triple premium pack
4 subtree vehicles vs 3 non-subtree vehicles is not a good look at all, especially when the coming update includes another 4 non-subtree vehicles at once
edit: taking StormRyders post into consideration, 13 British vehicles + 3 reskins and 4 subtree vs 4 non subtree, even worse
The thing you sent does specifically say they had to do software and platform modifications for the Brimstone. And there is also the difference of US AH-64E having SPIKE NLOS
The software changes is a fair argument but Spike NLOS was nowhere near integration on US AH64Es back in 2015
Edit: I think you can make equal arguments for both at this point tbf