if you want heli pvp go play ground sim. Its near unplayable because of the heli spam.
The only real issue is that if they put Heli spawns at the plane runways it would take 5 years to reach midmap so a bit of a compromise. Use the bases mechanic already ingame and have them be where Heli’s spawn
Yeah no iv played it in Sim ground. Its not a great experience if anyone is even semi competent with an SPAA
It would kinda ruin the gameplay. Helis would just sit there RPing as SAM sites. Sim’s already exploitable enough without another layer of toxic crap to throw in. Perhaps if we got a permanent version of something like the SEAD game mode? Or even of they redid sim entirely to be more like that game mode. where its more objective based than just grinding points against AI.
What about SkyGuard-M and quad FlaRakRad with hfk/kv missiles?
Not ever Heli has AAM’s, and actually using the AAM’s that some have would not be ideal for most Heli’s since they mostly lack the proper detection tools and unlike in GRB its quite a bit harder to aim the AAM’s. The only way youd get smacked by a Heli roleplaying as a SAM site is if you are bombing with CCIP instead of CCRP and decide to be on the deck and slow
Ty-90 would disagree with you bud. People already sit there and camp the airspawn in grb with them. in sim it would be another toxic mess. maybe if heli’s got a completely reworked br system to be inline with air. but as of rn you’d be putting them in the same lobbies as mig21s and f4js.
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hfk/kv literaly is a prototype missle which does not have enough data to be implemented
same with skyguard
You know, there is something i wonder about the AAM-5’s integration on the F-2. The 3D RWR that was tested was supposed to use the AAM-5, and supposedly worked, but it was from before AAM-5s began testing on the TRDI F-2s.
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Yeaa, maybe there were more tests we haven’t discovered yet, who knows.
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The reason why its so easy to do so in GRB is thanks to the fact that Heli’s have a silly high controllability which lends alot to aiming stuff like AAM’s, plus 3rd person makes it so much easier to detect and track someones flight so you can easily predict their flight path and set up a missile launch. Thats extremely difficult to do even with any of the radar carrying Harriers in Sim because detecting enemy aircraft is incredibly difficult by design, and its much harder to predict the enemies flight path which means its even harder to set up a missile launch
Almost every top tier vehicle does not have enough data out there to make a realistic copy, they all rely mostly on assumption, vague claims and Gaijin’s random decisions.
there is still a good bit of difference between those. a whole vehicle and a single missle has massive difference. Many of the vehicle are based on existing stuff and can be interpreted as well.
That cant be done with those, its realy mostly interily in the hands of gajin and would perform badly as a result
Idk what you mean because harriers sit there bullying noobs all day in sim by just VTOLing in place and firing fox 2s at people who make passes on them. Now imagine that with a target that still wont appear on radar, so your SARH/ARH are useless and also usually has some form of overperforming IRCM that makes IR missiles useless. It’s just not going to work without a complete rework of what sim currently is as a game mode.
Literally how do you know that?..
In all of my time playing Sim Air, i have seen zero harriers doing that. They are always fighting other strike aircraft and fighters for bases and ground targets, or trying to dogfight other jets without using VTOL
because i am sadly way to deep into war thunder
somehow got to be a mod in the german vehicle discord that handles every german resource and read trough them all and am aware of the things.
Gajins does follow a lose set of rules when implementing and this completly falls out of the matrix
You don’t play enough sim then. At least not in the 9.7 bracket or the 13.0 bracket. in 9.7 its especially bad because half of your opponents dont even have flares.
i have played throughout those brackets, and iv seen enough AV-8C’s get supplexed by F-100D’s and F’s and watched AV-8B+'s climbing towards stuff at altitude like F-15’s and F-16’s and firing AMRAAM’s well outside their firing range, and i know those are never sitting in place with VTOL because iv been the one to smack them out of the air with the F-16AJ
They’re going to have to. The game will be unplayable without them when missiles like the IRIS-T get added onto aircraft.