Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

None of the F-2’s has an HMD. There was a proposal add one to the F-2 but that didnt go anywhere thanks to some budget woes and the F-35 becoming available for purchase

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Thai Gripen-E and that new upgrade program for the F-15Js, please.
F-2 has all the hype but I just cant see it!!!

No, but I’d be open to no more DM63 if it went down to 8.0

F-15JSI would be neat, but the program isnt finished yet. Its primarily just a radar and fire control systems upgrade, but the AESA radar and modernized computers could mean compatibility for AAM-4B which the F-15J(M)'s lack, but it will still pretty much be similar performance to ghe F-15J(M) since its still the same platform, no imporved engines as of yet

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F-15J(M) has full access to AAM-4B and even AAM-5/B, which the F-2 doesn’t have. JSI is also going to integrade more than just a new Radar and FCS.

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Gaijin hardly couldve meant the F-2 as a top-tier for Japan then.
Lacking those advanced missiles, no HMS, it cant be any better than something like the F-16C.
So I guess Japan will remain without a top-tier to compete with the 30SM, Rafale, EF2000…

As long as they can get enough information, or just guesstimate accurately enough, I dont see that stopping them.
A lot of future aircraft will be guesstimation so they have to cross that boundary eventually, let it be with a smaller nation and a less important aircraft.

If they really dont want to do that though, the Gripen-E is the easiest option I think.
Same time as SWE gets it.

Or really lazy, and just add the AAM4 and AAM5 to the J(M)

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well honestly, could be possible
equivalent to the chinese one

would be sad, specialy that sweden gets a new top tier spaa, but well
No matter dont forget russia gonna get an even better one

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F-2 can use AAM-5 and AAM-4B. The problem is that the early production version couldnt since neither missiles existed when it came out in the 90’s and took some upgrades happening in the early 2010’s. In regards to the JSI the only way they could really add it is if they copied stats from the F-15EX since JSI is supposed to use alot of components from it bit if the program finishes without all the components it would probably be nerfed into the ground. At this point tho i do think that it would be better if we got the JSI and Grippen E for Japan before the F-2 since even the late production F-2 has alot going against it compared to those 2. F-2 kinda just works better as a filler for BR holes

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Besides adversiting an ASEAN Founders Sub-TT, there is nothing anyone can do against that. Unless we consider paper vehicles again (F-2A/B Super Kai).

Has yet to be integrated. The missile did not exist when F-15J entered service either.

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pretty sure the current f2a can use the aam5 just not aam5b.

Even if F-2 can use AAM-5, it wont be something added anytime soon since Gaijin has stated that high performance and impossible to flare IR missiles wont be added anytime within the near future, which hampers the F-2 at the current moment and make it a little bit worse than the F-16 OCU ingame since the OCU has an HMD for its IR missiles which makes it more effective in closer in fights

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AAM-5 has not been integrated on the F-2. Only ADTW test aicraft are flying around with it rn - Only F-15J(M) and a small amount of F-15J post-IRAN received full operational capability of AAM-5/B.

If I had to guess, it will most likely be integrated along with the new air launched stealth cruise missile based off Type 12 SSM. But thats still a few years away.

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The only F-2 that would do good at the BR it would end up at is the F-2 Early which would be 12.7 or 13.0, since it is a bit higher performance than the F-16A’s are and has a bit larger missile capacity and ofc a cracked radar

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The J-10 and J-11B still has much of its arsenal to be featured and the radar is rather inconsistent, why do you think the F-2 will get any better treatment? Sure Japan has been given a lot of paper vehicles that should be removed asap, but these are another case.

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Honestly with the potential prospect of the RAH-66 Comanche being added, id love to see Heli’s be usable in Air Sim since they are aircraft, the mode features scenario’s which attack Heli’s were designed to go up against, and i want to experience some of that Heli PVP game action boomers got to experience

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Okay, so add the F-2 and give it the tail number of one with the ADTW. There, problem solved.

JSI is an F-15J airframe with some EX electronics, they can’t copy anything airframe related

Issue with the JSI, is that somehow, just like the F-2, in game it’d honestly be worse then the F-15J(M) we already have. It lacks domestic AAM capabilities as currently planned, meaning only AMRAAMS + sidewinders. Which, considering japan doesn’t have D block amraams yet, is honestly worse then what they already have. Likewise in game Aim-120C-5s + 9Ls (since 9Xs aren’t coming yet in game, and japan lacks 9Ms), would be considerably worse then the J(M), considering the J(M) can technically get C-5s anyways.

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Would give some nations ab equivalent to strike aircraft at brackets where they completely lack any, and gives reason to sacrifice some A2G missiles to slap on extra guns or AAM’s

Does this mean

Boxer with IRIS-Ts

I’m well aware this isn’t out yet, I’m half joking.

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IRIS-T SLM

IRIS-T

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