Well, we’ll find out soon enough. and a SAM system is exactly how I would test and tune “IIR” prior to adding them for aircraft
this is the hard to figure out part, but I’m sure we are not ready for a mid-range SPAA
Next step would be IIR on things like helicopters
Probably not actually.
That would just create a wierd balancing issue for them I think.
MMW on the other hand… Maybe.
Though with 40km FnF SAMs this major looking likely… They cant put MMW off all that much longer
welp not like we are getting a choice as gaijin went for one of the worst options to test this system
Not to mention Iglas biggest weakness - they’re caged.
If I had the option to take ATAS on my Ka-52 and Iglas on my 64D, I’d be taking ATAS on both.
Iglas are just useless most of the time, because you can’t hit what you can’t lead lol. The cage is like Aim-9B levels of awful, and in a Heli you’re pretty much always engaging in side / diagonal aspect.
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Well I’d like them to model rotor radar returns, maybe at the same time as a MP height decrease so adding IIR to helis wouldn’t be as big of an issue
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Now that would be a far more beneficial thing for them to do.
Verbas are also in the game now but they’re only on the AMTASH-VN iirc. Would probably take that overall.
As someone who’d love to get Heli’s into Sim EC, this would fix a big complaint many people have against them.
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manpads’s mobility is mainly limited by fin aoa or other similar paramattas, g limit is not the true limit, so the Mistral is not better with more G limit.
it actually has a start tvc so not so bad, but it has no proxy now, this is the biggest problem.
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Yeah, it would fix one of the 2 major… concerns… I have with it
By adding rotor return + decrease MP height helis are more realistic and even could be added to Sim like @TheAceOfAces said. And by adding IIR missiles to some of them it furthers game progression + gives the helicopters better self protection.
The issue I have with it though, is that not everyone would have IIR AAMs on helis. Which could be a major balancing issue.
Also my other issue in:
is helis sat at the end of the runway picking people off as they take off. IIR AAMs on them would just make that far far worse
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Raise BR
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Gun based/stinger based runway air defence. Even JLTV or just soldiers with stingers should help deal with this. Not to mention that the only example I really know of can only carry 2 of them
I mean most maps like Afghanistan have plenty of places you can hide from bass AA and with an IRIS-T you could kill an plane by poping up for less then 3 seconds firing and dipping back down safe again
The issue I have isnt necessarily sat just off the runway, but relatively close by. And as Smugspite said. Some maps have plenty of places to hide.
What is really needed is some kind of AF Guardian that would actively go after any Helis within 10km? of an AF in ASB and be a meaningful threat
2 missiles then you need to rearm + you have to make it there in the first place, then make it back for full reward. dont think any helicopters have IRIS-T btw
I say this from the perspective of being a Heli enjoyer, but we really need to be careful going down that route.
A well played Heli, utilizing terrain, can be incredibly difficult to spot / counter. And if he’s able to just have what is effectively a death bubble around him at all times, it’s going to be miserable for fixed wing users, who will just spontaneously disassemble every time they fly over a wood line or crevasse.
You’d also have to make huge areas around the other teams airfields inaccessible or some Heli is just going to delete everything that takes off with such AAM’s at their disposal.
I already think TY-90’s would be problematic in Sim EC, things like IRIS would be a whole other realm of issue.
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It’s not FnF for the entire 40km. It has datalink + IOG until the target is in range of the IIR seeker, which is 25km. The radar should be the best we’ll have ingame though.