It’s the same gun and breach as the Bismarck. Same shells too because russia never got round to making their own 15" shell.
Same gun, same shells. Different turret when you account for power assistance and autoloader. Bismarck and tirpitz have what I have nicknamed the normal turret. Gneisenau and PR-69i use the Drh LC/34 in what i have nicknamed the lightweight turret. To ensure structural compatibility half of the autoloader had to be sacrificed. RoF was the same as on coastal mountings, which achieved a peak reload of 60 seconds, and sustained of 70 seconds.
Yes I believe sevastopol is in the same boat as gneisenau.
the heavy weight turret would have broken the ship, this much we know. I personally do not know if russia planned to use the german loading mechanism or their own, absence of info, take the closest external case, which is gneisenau and 70 second reload.
Ridiculously huge, but anything bigger than h-41 is straight up either fake or was drawn up by an office of people who had no actual sway or ties to the naval design bureau, they were just looking busy to avoid a trip to the eastern front. their designs are structurally flawed and also have no basis in reality.
I asked smin, its reportable, they could jsut ignore it but lack of power assistance does not mean no power assistance, this would be the first ever case of them knowingly exceeding an autoloaders peak fire rate. it still has an autoloader assistance, its just slower and bad. To my knowledge they’ve never exceeded an autoloader e.g giving the soviet ones a 5 second reload, as its not possible mechanically.
Lowest they could get if you accounted purely for the autoloader is probably like 40 seconds and that would account for the crew somehow teleporting shells from autoloader to the breach.
Thats a guess by the way, no document i have read straight up says this. Oh and 1940’s printed german is hard to read, im only B2…
So fingers crossed then, but I can only imagine the thread spam with figures reported from Bismark. So have something saved in a notepad for C&Ping into those threads :D
Well if you google the gun and do any research navyweps clearly state it. if people care enough to moan about them being different i’d hope they at least would try and research why first. I did not just get told this, i looked and found it, and now have been trying to validate it with the autoloader plans and the rof figs from the coastal batterys
It’s curious how the human mind works
you have to be a very brilliant naval engineer and, at the same time, a complete idiot to build something like that.
Do you say this mostly because it would mean Yamato is no longer best in game? I think true missile ships would be amazing if they made some gamemode changes for those BR’s
Yet to be 100% confirmed and I would still be a little surprised if they do go straight for the IRIS-T SLM and its greater range. But if they do, I would hope for some pretty major CAS buffs ASAP
I am not a Yamato fan.
And I do not believe Gaijin will make any changes to the mode that would make missile ships not abhorrent. I’d rather they stay away from War Thunder as long as possible.
Yep. I feel like we have gone backwards in raw destructive capabilities ever since nukes went from being viewed as very large explosives to immediate world enders (for good reason)
yet, I doubt theyd jump to the Type 42 anytime soon and there would be a logical set of ships to come first. County-Class and Type 141 being of perticular note because they didnt have ASMs in their initial fits and both had 2x twin 4.5" guns making them fairly reasonable additions anytime, but would add SAMs.
