Indeed there should be an 80s spec Mig-29 which is actually soviet instead of the 1991+ 9.13 we have now due to it’s R-27ER, hower give that jet it’s R-73s along with the base german one (which never used R-60Mks past training
Same can’t be said for russia or Iran, both of which have proven themselves incapable of detecting or countering stealth besides 1-2 cases of rare NATO pilots incompetence/inexperience
I think that even in WT, ppl will realize that even the best and most modern AA systems don’t cut it
If 5th gen aircraft can’t be dealt with by any AA system, then they’ll probably just be banned from ground battles
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Modern 4th gen and 4.5 can also beat those systems
they would be able, but on which range…
I hope so, 4.5 gens are the pinnacle of CAS and adding undetectable aircraft with a couple of JDAMs just doesn’t seem to be worth the trouble for SPAA players
yeah, but it still ends up with ground battles just being air battles with some tanks in the background
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On one hand, S-300/400 supposedly can ‘burn through’ stealth, on the other, the F-35I adir made it deep into Iranian protected airspace and destroyed every single one of their modernised air defense systems lmfao
I mean that’s what happens when all the things that make the ground forces important aren’t really in game
Everything can “burn through” stealth, what matters is how far away the stealth jet has to be before this is achieved
I think it’s because Finland used to not exist in War Thunder. But yeah I agree they should be removed (but people who paid for them should get GE refunded)
yep, even if it would be detected - you need to track it
also, smth like JASSM/or even SDB2 would outrange detection/track
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Or give them the option to transfer it to Finnish T-55 so if they already have it or plan to get it they will have the skin
The T-55A doesn’t have the Finnish skin though, just the WW2/Early Cold War Russian skins
A strike eagle with JASSM-ER could wipe the floor with S-400’s
The issue is that when all things are made accurate, aircraft always have the advantage, yeah ground doesn’t have their best SAM systems, but then aircraft don’t have all their standoff weapons either.
Really, we need separate capabilities for aircraft between air and ground battles, and a better air game mode that is won through CAS not just air kills
For F-22 or J-20 sure, however F-35 is far more efficiently stealthy than any other SF and trumps russia’s most modern air defense
I think there should be ground rb ec with objectives for both aircraft and ground forces, something to use bunker busters or cruise missiles on.
Should come after or with stuff like chaff smoke grenades, fixed APS and maybe even something like a CRAM
Doesn’t F-22 have more stealth than the F-35?