Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

“Don’t like seeing your tech in other trees don’t export it” is a quote that likely won’t even stop needed to be repeated.

With the Norwegian F-5, it’s basically confirmed that Sweden is a home for those nations in the region. So, I’d rather the vehicles of those nations come and be added to the TT hopefully rather than the unattainable ways.

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In all honesty I’m surprised the Gripen-A still has its HMD and 9Ms. If it were up to me it would be 12.3 with its proper FM, 9Ls, and no HMD.

At least there it would be a F-16A counterpart, and its Skyflashes would actually have a use.

Arjun is an excellent addition and very unique and exciting.

Su30mki is so stupid i absolutely believe gaijin would do it.

Law of equivalent exchange i guess.

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Okay, with how much compression we have. You are someone who has way too much confidence in gaijin fixing things. Example.

Gripen A vs C on launch, given their flightmodel for 2 months there is no way the C and A wouldn’t both be same BR even if the C had HMD. Even though its a huge advantage. The A would be too strong to move down. Same logic applies here. The C would be too strong and so you’re just nerfing an already horrible vehicle in the current altitude meta

Chill out dude, it’s not that serious

It should’ve been added like that but gaijin had to screw everything up by adding the gripen C at the same time. All gaijin had to do was not bring the C in alongside the A. When the F16C came out 2 months prior the gripen A should’ve been released and the Gripen C could’ve been added in December

you just said “12.3”

let me make this clear. There is no amount of nerfs to the Gripen FM, that would justify throwing down at 12.3… you could remove its HMD, its 9Ms and it’d still be 12.7 material at the lowest.

He can’t see that even though i explained it, again its realistically too late to change it.

If that’s the case then I’d argue the F-16A would need to be 12.7 as well (which I’m not opposed to).

The Gripen-A and F-16A should be analogues to each other, that’s all I was getting at.

That means IRIS T then

It’s not too late to change numbers :)

it’s just code at the end of the day

Ok, that “leak list” annoys me.

With Italy getting an F-18, I don’t have a problem with them getting it per se, my issue comes from them getting it but not the UK. Simply put if Italy is getting one the UK better be getting one.

F16 A is better in flight performance. 2 equally skilled pilots will normally leave with the F16A winning after the last flight model nerf to drag. F16 holds a tighter circle and keeps and regains energy just a bit better.

I agree, the Gripen-A would have been a cool addition with the F-16A and MiG-29 back in 2022.

Then the Gripen-C would have been a cool counterpart to the F-16C and MiG-29SMT.

I dont see how that’s a MICA-IR tease. Given that the Pylons that host the MICA-EM also host the MICA-IR

It’s likely either an oversight, the way the actual interface is designed for clarity purposes, or they took it from a later modeled Rafale.

I agree, so I don’t see why the Gripen-A would have to be a higher BR if it lost 9Ms and HMD and got an even worse FM like AgentZombie was saying

hence why I said

F-16 also can’t flare anywhere near as many missiles and is fighting a plane with SARHs and a fantastic radar

If the fight ever comes down to a dogfight where IR missiles or guns dictate the engagement something went wrong.

That’s like when Gaijin tried to justify the Belgian F-16A at 13.3 against Fox-3 slingers just because it had a good FM and 9Ms

That’s great, but this vehicle is fighting vehicles that don’t have any reason to give you your advantage.

Hell the entire reason the F-16A went down was because it was performing poorly apparently, against planes that fly worse but have radar missiles.

It unfortunately just didn’t end up that way and so again the Gripen C is one of the weaker 13.7’s definitely not the weakest but you are slower than everyone at your own BR and below meaning you cant climb for ARH and have to play very carefully because of your 6 hardpoints. Id rather play my SM because at least i can be more risky with my missiles and im faster. Besides R77 are better than 120 at the ranges im using R77. Still a horrible missile lol

If we were putting it at 12.3 it wouldn’t have BOL

This is why I said

IF they nerfed the FM I wouldn’t be surprised if they moved it down a little.